Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions

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  1. US Conservative

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    Dems are currently breaking down over the wall, illegal immigration, etc.

    He's got it to use if he wants it. ;)
     
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    They are generally poor and take more then they give.
     
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    You should start a thread about immigrants and the value they bring. This one is about illegal immigrants and the problems they bring.
     
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    Have ICE waiting in the maternity ward of all hospitals.
    Deport the mother, and send the baby back with its mother.

    Also hospitals should refuse to issue a birth certificate until the medical bills are paid. If they're not paid within two years, shred the paper.
     
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  5. Angrytaxpayer

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    By your opinion then all healthcare professionals shouldn't be allowed to vote. Actually if leftists had their way anyone not thinking their way should be terminated from their profession. It's already happening.

    https://www.quora.com/I-fired-an-employee-when-I-learned-she-voted-for-Trump-Is-this-illegal

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/369911-nurse-claims-she-was-fired-for-supporting-trump

    And contrary to your belief people can do their job without judgement.
     
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    Really?
    Nothing has been done for over 40 yrs.
    There won't be a full on wall.
    Remember, Pelosi own's his butt and can push his triggers.
     
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    Deport a legal citizen out of the USA? IE birth right citizenship.
    Hell, why not just accidentally pretend the baby didn't make the birth.
     
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    Not deport, send it to live with its mother.

    You don't want families to be separated, do you?
     
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  9. JakeStarkey

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    Yes, amend the Constitution if you can.

    The 'medicare' card is a requirement for funding payment, I gather.

    Birth right citizenship is here to stay, I think, for ours, our childrens', and our grandchildrens' life times.
     
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    Trying to do whats best for America is a sneaky way of getting elected, huh?
     
  11. kazenatsu

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    No reason to, just a reinterpretation will do.

    (As has already been thoroughly explained in several other threads)
     
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    if walls are worthless why do we continue to build walls by the mile why do we put them around our prisons? every where the US erected a barrier along the Mexican border illegal crossing has dropped by 70%
     
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    We could make it a criminal offense for an illegal alien to give birth in the country.

    No elligibility to ever return to the U.S. again.
    (Until she pays her medical bills)

    Also no reason to have to spend taxpayer dollars educating her child. Mexico can do that.
    (or whatever other country that child and its mother are a citizen of)
     
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    The silly explanation will not pass muster: requires an amendment.
     
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    We could make it a criminal offense to argue against the 14th amendment and birth right.
     
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    what taxes would that be? only taxes illegal immigrants pay is local and state sales tax they don't pay property tax the don't pay payroll tax and only way they pay SS tax if they committed identity theft or using a fraudulent SS number
     
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    Fourteenth Amendment doesn't say that people not in the U.S. and not under U.S. jurisdiction are citizens, even if they happened to born in the U.S.

    They don't need to be considered U.S. citizens.

    Fourteenth Amendment doesn't permanently "grant" citizenship to them.
     
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    It's like the Constitution. It works when it's in their favor and it doesn't work when it's not.
     
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    Medical care costs are a lot cheaper in Mexico than they are in the US.
    Cutting these medical bills could pay for the wall within one year.
     
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    why don't we in the process then get rid of the first amendment because that is what you just advocated for
     
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    A couple of years ago, on a trip to England, my son got the stomach flu. He walked into a health clinic and they treated him, without question, and without a bill.
     
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    Don't argue with stupid.
     
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    There was a bill, you just didn't see it.

    (speaking figuratively)

    The system in England has been overwhelmed with migrants and now they are having to cut corners.
    I heard some of their nursing staff are having to go to food banks to make ends meet.

    They're also encouraging elderly, and those with a poor prognosis, to die to save costs.
    (i.e. old person, poor quality of life, might only live a few more years, gets no treatment)

    They're hiring lots of cheap foreign doctors from Pakistan and India, so there's a lot of misdiagnosis. Again, people don't get treatment and die.

    It's a lot like an insurance company. They're happy to pay out for the cheap stuff, no questions asked, but you have a big emergency that costs a huge amount of money, it can be like pulling teeth.
     
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    Yes, i have had a similar experience. But stomach flu and cancer are quite different.

    Also, it is hard enough to have ANY public medical plan in the usa... if you propose that people can move here and get free medical care... there will be even less support
     
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    Besides, the US grows better marijuana that Mexico does. It is not a problem.
     

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