Mueller report: Barr lied! There was was obstruction... and... surprise surprise...

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  1. Homer J Thompson

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    Fox News - James Rosen and his parents. NYT Risen and the AP to name just a couple off the top of my head. I'm guessing a quick google search will provide many others.

    Edit: Sorry so late but been too busy to spend time here.
     
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    That's funny, because this is all the have.

    Trump is being accused of obstructing an investigation into a crime he knew had never occurred. Very early on, Mueller also knew, without a doubt, that no crime of Trump-Russia collusion or conspiracy, ever occurred.

    The looney left have nothing.

    However, once the DOJ's Inspector General releases his report, we will all see a lot of corruption, abuse of power, and felonies that were committed by the Obama Justice Department. That is when all these fools who keep starting a new Trump-Russia collusion or obstruction thread will be sulking in the corner, watching their fantasy world fall apart. I just cannot believe those people cannot see it coming, or maybe they just refuse to.

    The thing is, you cannot even be upset by these TDS fools, because we know what is coming, and they do not seem to. It's sort of like taking what we know today, and teleporting back in time to a week before the 2016 presidential election. We can smile in their faces when they tell us how Hilary will win in a landslide election, because we know that their world is about to come crashing down around them, and we will enjoy a little schadenfruede when it happens.
     
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    LOL, still no charges. You lose. The OLC is opinion and not law and Mueller could have suggested charges. He didn't.
     
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    Exactly, because that was all Mueller's job was, to investigate, and if he found sufficient evidence to charge then he'd do so, if he didn't find enough evidence, then he would not charge. He chose not to charge, because there was not sufficient evidence to charge. End of line.

    How much more basic or simple can we make it for these people?
     
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    It was not Mueller's job to offer his opinion or advice. His only job was be cite whether there was sufficient evidence to charge that a crime was committed, that is it.

    There was NO collusion, and no conspiracy from any Americans with any Russians.

    It goes even further than that. Mueller found NO Russian collusion or conspiracy with anyone connected with Trump. There was never any justification for this criminal investigation, and there was never any justification for the primary counter intelligence investigation, which came before it, either.

    The only crimes around here were committed by Obama and his DOJ, and all of this will be coming out prior to the 2020 reelection of Trump.
     
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    Really.

    What crimes has he been caught at.
     
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    It's a requirement if there are indications in the report that the President might have committed impeachable offenses. Especially if Congress is requiring it.
     
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    Mueller

    It was neither. Who knows what it was....

    We know that he would've prosecuted Trump, if it weren't for the OLC. There are over 300 legal experts (can't remember the number) who said that. Plus it's fairly obvious from the report.

    What contradictory statement? I said he lied!
     
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    https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.8
    According to 600.8 and .9 The special council's report is to the AG or his assistant if the AG has recused. In either case the publication of the Special council's report is entirely at the AG's discretion.
     
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    Even in that case the procedure requires a request through the Judiciary for some parts of it. For instance grand Jury testimony.
     
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    WUT??!?
     
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    Who said anything about "conspiracy"? I'm talking about obstruction of justice. It's illegal. It's a crime/ A felony! Can carry up to 20 year prison term. It certainly varies in degree with killing people in a jet airliner, but not as far as the fact that they are both crimes.

    You got yourself trapped in an argumentative corner.
     
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    Wrong! But I have decided not to keep explaining the basics of the Mueller report again and again Get some real news if you want to be informed. Otherwise, just sit there and prepare to be amazed at what will be happening in the next few days, weeks, months and... as soon as Trump leaves the presidency The rest of us have a pretty good idea of what's coming up.
     
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    Ok. Sounds easy. Has Barr requested the court order?
     
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    Congress doesn't have the authority to direct the Attorney General to perform specific actions.
     
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    You explain the politics of it not the law.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why would Congress need to direct Barr to do his job?
     
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    Barr's job is not to serve at the pleasure of Congress.
     
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    Barr's job is to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Without reservations. And to faithfully discharge the office he holds.
     
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    And that he is doing by defending against Congress' abuses of power.
     
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    Barr isn't required to do so the house does if they wish to. See gj testimony. But they don't care they'd rather play stupid kid tricks.
     
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    Barr needs to do his job. He's being held in contempt for failing to do his job.
     
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    No he is being held in contempt for refusing to break the law.
     
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    No. This is a clown show by the dems and they look ridiculous.
     
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