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  1. chris155au

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    What are these other 'forgotten' minority groups?
     
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    I don’t understand why you have having such issues comprehending my post unless it’s trying to form a gotcha scenario — either people (all people) should protected irregardless of their beliefs, color, orientation, views, religion, color, sex, etc (not their actions) or no one should. This system where “Christians” can do whatever they want but people are not allowed to treat them the same is absurd and violates the constitution as written.
     
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    I never mentioned a “forgotten” minority group.
     
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    Well "forgotten" was my word, but you referred to minority groups that can be discriminated against, so I thought that "forgotten" might be a way to describe them, as in forgotten by the government who doesn't protect them from discrimination. Anyway, who are they?
     
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    I don't. I wasn't asking a clarification question on your post. I was asking if you are talking about public accommodation and if so, if you think that public accommodation laws should go further, to include protecting political opinion. It appears that you do, considering that your below list includes "views" which to my knowledge, no state on the planet has in their anti-discrimination law.

    What "system" is that exactly?
     
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    For example, a “christian” can fire a gay person for being gay --or deny them service, or medical treatment, or housing — but a gay person cannot do the same to a “christian”.
     
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    I don't. I wasn't asking a clarification question on your post. I was asking if you are talking about public accommodation and if so, if you think that public accommodation laws should go further, to include protecting political opinion. It appears that you do, considering that your below list includes "views" which to my knowledge, no state on the planet has in their anti-discrimination law.
     
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    Where can a Christian fire someone for being gay?
     
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    Well what is the group?
     
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    You can be expressly fired for being homosexual in 26 states [source]
    Now name how many states a gay person can fire someone because they are Christian.

    Also name the states that allow gay people to refuse medical treatment to a Christian because of their religion.
     
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    Facebook bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and others from its platforms as 'dangerous'

    I have banned Facebook from my computers as dangerous. Both I and Facebook are within our rights.
     
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    Racist Hitlerian Pat Robertson and his 700 Club cult need to be banned from Facebook as well.
     
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    Because it's mostly a moot issue since nobody has lost the right to say anything. You're fighting for rights people never had in the first place. Apparently a person has the right to say what they want wherever they want and everyone, not just the government, must allow them? That right never existed.
     
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    Some of us where more concerned with using religion to justify using sexual orientation as a legal basis for discrimination. Claiming to be religious should not allow you to legally discriminate. In the case of the bakers, it wasn't that the gay couple had tried to violate rules that applied to everybody, such as not having vulgar wording or images be on the cake. They ordered the same type of cake as everyone else does. It was only the intended use of the cake at an event the bakers had faux religious issues with that caused them to deny service, not because the customers were trying to get the bakers to create something they would not create for other customers.

    To be a similar situation to the social media bans, it would need to be a case of Facebook allowing some people to say the exact same things as those that got banned, while applying bans for the same speech to others. That's not what happened and so these are two separate unrelated situations.
     
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    How is he racist?
     
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    Couldn't the government change how Facebook is regulated, or at least threaten it in order to compel them to change their practice?
     
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    Doubtful. Even traditional print media is not required to give everyone a voice in their publications. When a newspaper editor refuses to publish an op-ed or a letter to the editor, they are doing the exact type of screening that Facebook is doing. It's legal.
     
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    I have posted links previously. Google for more info.
     
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    Iran. Time to move to greener pastures, buddy.
     
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    I hope not. Government has the power to regulate business but not to regulate a single business. If you want government to threaten businesses, then you probably want them to be able to threaten you. If you don't like what Facebook does, then don't use it. That is what I do.
     
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    The difference is, Facebook isn't a publisher. A newspaper IS. See the difference?
     
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    It wouldn't be one company. It would be the category of social media platforms. Would you tell every single conservative in the country, "don't use it?"
     
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    So it was discrimination on the basis of the event that the cake was for. How exactly is that illegal?
    Also, Jack Philips WAS being asked to create something different. He was being asked to use his artistic expression to customise a cake that was to be the centrepiece of a same sex marriage celebration. He artistically creates and customises each cake using his artistic expression for each individual wedding. This is where the problem was. It doesn't matter that he wasn't being asked to write "gay marriage rules" on the top! How useless the First Amendment would be if that was all that it gave people the freedom to refuse!

    How do you explain why antifa groups are still active, who call for the assassination of Trump?
     
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    If every conservative in the country asked me I would. Otherwise I don't care.
     
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    How well do you think it would go for the conservative movement if not one single one of them was on social media?
     

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