Federal Appeals Court Rules DEA, Federal Govt. Must 'Promptly' Reassess Marijuana's Illegality

You were making Utilitarian arguments = Justification for law on the basis of "harm reduction".

 

fascination with respect to what ? Legalization ? If that is what you are getting at - the issue is not Pot so much... the issue is abuse of power by Gov't = Illegitimacy of Authority.

 

But alcohol, tobacco, and drugs are used by people ALL over the World.

 

I know they are treating e cigs like smokes(nicotine in them after all) but first I’ve heard of humidifiers being banned.

 

On the same basis that government passes any law

Pot was legalized in states like colorado and california so druggies can do the same in other states using the regular legeslative process

 

If you're talking about certain diversion programs certain DAs do, that's not how it works at all.

 

No.
Legalize it under the same strictures as alcohol (for recreational) and allow doctors, patients, and field sobriety impairment tests (you know the ones where they get you to do things like touch your nose) to decide when someone is "intoxicated" and thus should not then be in possession of a firearm.

 

Any cop worth his salt can conduct a field sobriety test to determine if a driver is impaired.

 

how about with freedom?

 

What about freedom?

 

do you understand the fascination with freedom? That's the point of my OP.

 

Let me put it this way.

I don't understand why people would want to purposely harm themselves by consuming alcohol, smoking/chewing tobacco and/or doing drugs.

There! Is that clear enough for ya?

 

If you go back and read my OP you will see that is irrelevant. The point is being free to do what you want since it is harming only yourself. And by the way, cannabis has a multitude of health and medicinal benefits, and you do not have to smoke it. It comes in many forms, including extracts.

 

That’s the wonderful thing about freedom, you don’t have to understand why others do what they do. People enjoy drugs of all types for various reasons, coffee (a drug) allows me to focus in the mornings. Why is it any of your concern?

 

While there may be no such thing as second hand alcohol they almost cause more death and injury than all other drugs combined.

As for the single use plastic straws, if you cannot see why they need to be banned you are not paying attention.

Vaping restrictions are stupid (they are not being banned just the location of use restricted) but some people are unfortunately allergic to the chemicals used to create the taste of some of the vape “juice”. If you look at the states that are restricting them it is about equal between red and blue states.

 

As a 10 year resident of WA, conservative republican and nonpartaker, let me assure those of you against legalization that nothing changes with legalization. You just have to get used to the 'Legal Weed' advertisements on Main Street. Its not difficult if you support liberty and individualism.

This is happening, and its well past time.

 

Why is opium handed out like candy but less dangerous marajuana has all this drama?

 

I never said it was my concern.

I voiced my opinion.

 

Always need more nonpartakers on the side of legalization.

 

Marijuana is a drug. It doesn't cure anything. It only masks the problem.

 

What about cheeseburgers and french fries (and other "unhealthy" and fatty foods) ? Energy drinks? Perfumes? Cleaning products? Air fresheners? Plastic food containers (i.e. water battles)? Antiperspirants? Teflon? Cell phone usage?

All of these items can and do harm people.....and there is plenty of information available to inform the public. Even some activities that people do on a daily basis can be very dangerous, especially in the long term.

On the surface, I do understand your point, but if people become truly obsessed about all the things that could harm them in life....well, then they would not be "living".

 

Exactly!

I'm 55 and eat healthy and exercise daily and take no medication.

And that brings up another point. Why should someone like me who takes care of myself by eating healthy, exercise daily and don't drink, smoke or do drugs have to pay for other people's health insurance who don't live a healthy lifestyle???

 

What country are you in that you think people don't use psychoactive drugs?

 

Because YOUR idea of what is "healthy" or "not healthy" is not shared by all. Because YOUR life style is YOUR lifestyle and other people enjoy the freedom in this country to make their own choices for how they want to live their lives.

I think people that Bungy Jump are foolish (old joke: "A broken rubber brought me into this life, I don't want one to take me out"). Myself, I see no enjoyment in the act. However, I understand that others do find thrill and excitement of Bungy Jumping. They might have an accident when doing so that might put them in the hospital where I might need to indirectly pay for their treatment. I just figure that is a wash for the risks I take on a daily basis just going to work.

 

Which doesn't explain why he should be required to foot the bill, or any of us should be footing the bill, for anyone else. Freedom is about paying your own way, using your own resources or those resources voluntarily made available to you by friends or family.

Its not about sending a tax collector out to collect income at the point of a gun and give it to someone else so they can "enjoy " their "lifestyle" of choice.