Nike recalls shoe after Colin Kaepernick raises racial concerns

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  1. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    I nominate the above for post of the month, for your insight -- as demonstrated by the following quote from "The Atlantic."
    https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/08/the-racial-divide-on-sneakers/261256/

    The sneaker reflects at once the projection and stylization of black urban realities linked in our contemporary historical moment to rap culture and the underground political economy of crack, and reigns as the universal icon for the culture of consumption. The sneaker symbolizes the ingenious manner in which black cultural nuances of cool, hip, and chic have influenced the broader American cultural landscape.
     
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    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except they're not "stealing" the ok sign. The white power gesture isn't the ok sign, you need both hands to do it.
    And are you, again, trying to link Trump to the white supremacist? You know the guy married to a women of slavic descent and with a jewish daughter and who received award in the past from the black community... We get it, you hate the guy but no need to invent things about him. This only lower your credibility.
     
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    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So? Many white supremacist also drive Ford, drink beer and eat burgers... Should we stop using those too?
     
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    [QUOTE="Space_Time, post: Does the Left want to completely overturn Americn history?[/QUOTE]

    Not just history, they are revolutionaries they want to overthrow everything..
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jesus God man/woman/ alphabet, are you now claiming the Betsy Ross flag is really racist? Then sell everything black cuz I call it representing Antifa who is a terrorist group.
     
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    Let me rephrase: Michael Jordan has far more prestige, legacy, and popularity than Colin does. Hey, if Nike wants to cave in to Colin, that's their business - it just seems to me that they shouldn't have bothered, but - *shrugs*
     
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    Wow..digusting...plus he isn't even really black
     
  8. KJohnson

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    This is a typical evasive psychological measure often used that I always find interesting. I'm sure there's a name for it. Kind of like complaining about a family member always leaving the bathroom a mess when it's really about them wanting the room to themselves. Unlike most others, I search for the very root of problems rather than just skim the top bc only then can true solutions be found.

    In this situation, which has actually become cliche with everyone blaming Trump or the US constantly for everything, it's really about liberal progressives pushing communism. To be successful, they must strip patriotism completely bc it represents freedom which they abhor. They want people completely under their rule, divided, and totally dependent on big government. Independence is krytonite to them.

    So hearing everyone on the news saying everyday it's just bc they hate Trump for Twittering is annoying. They hate Trump alright but it's not bc of what he says. It's because he keeps stopping or reversing their agenda of turning this country into a communist regime which they were well on their way of accomplishing until he through a huge monkey wrench in their plans when he was elected.

    But I digress...this incident along those same lines is about achieving anti-Americanism.
     
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    why the **** would identity europa take the american revolutionary flag as its symbol? That seems far fetched.
     
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    Nike finally takes a step towards redeeming themselves and then drop even further into the shithole they've become. And all because of some crackpot failed football player who lives a better life than those he pretends to care about, but never helps.
     
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    That's ok, they'll be ripping their hair out at the roots tomorrow while proud patriotic people celebrate America. Oh, and here's this.

    Dow record.JPG
     
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    Can you please explain how the shoes being discussed are racist? I don't see it.
     
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    The values of that era persist within American culture, with white supremacist groups like the Ku Klux Klan using the Betsy Ross Flag in its propaganda in more recent times.

    The group passed out mini Betsy Ross Flags in a New York town in 2018 in addition to the typically used Confederate Flag and candy, according to The New York Times. It also used images of the flag in a letter sent to a campus newspaper in Washington in 2017.
    https://www.newsweek.com/betsy-ross-flag-meaning-history-racist-1447174


    Why would anyone want a flag on their shoes anyway? Could American patriotism be any shallower?
     
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    you seem to be confused, I am saying the "OK" sign is not a racist sign to most, some racist want it to be, but it will never happen
     
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    nike should be ashamed of themselves for trying to slip this one past us only removing them when called out for their obvious hatred of POC.

    If this isn't clear proof that they are a racist organization I'm not sure what to say to anyone.

    /end sarcasm

    End result, enterprising young business people are likely going to make a quick killing on BR Flags/T-shirts/hats over the next 24 hours.
     
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    So we should grant the KKK the power to change the meaning of any symbol? I guarantee that a member of the KKK has your first name. If a KKK member wears Levis, drives a Dodge, and has a dog, does that make me a racist?

    BTW, I will help you rid yourself of symbols of white slave owners. All you have to do is send me all your money! :)
     
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    can't use Obama he had that despicable flag flying proudly during his inauguration, unless of course he can convince us it was the typical white blood in him that gave the OK on that travesty and he has since evolved.
     
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    And I'm saying this is false. It's an internet hoax started by a special snowflake who didn't even know that it was the ok sign. The racist don't want or need the ok sign since they've been using a totally different hand sign for years.
     
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    The 13 star American flag representing the colonies is a reminder to Blacks that those colonies put their ancestors into slavery. Not a proud time for them, wouldn't you say?

    CNN reports that if the governor of Arizona does not want Nike to open a factory in his state that there are Democratic governors eager to get the deal. Also the Arizona town where the Nike plant was to be built do not agree with their governor.
     
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    you seem to be agreeing with me - don't let a hoax become reality... if enough people believe it and racist start to use it, that is how you lose it
     
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    Actually no, I'm disagreeing with you. I don't know how you telling me that the racist are trying to subvert the ok sign, and me telling you they aren't, means that I'm agreeing with you.
    Again, that whole ok sign bull.... was started by a special snowflake who didn't even know that it was the ok sign.
     
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    We shouldn't let them, but it happens. Evil groups throughout history have coopted harmless symbols which are now forever assosciated with those groups. Why would an old US flag be any different?
     
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    Great point. Take a look at the shoes on this group of neo-nazis. Do you see the Nike swoosh on the shoes of the guy next to Nazi flag bearer? Perhaps we should make the Nike swoosh a hate symbol since we now have evidence that neo-nazis have it on their apparel.

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    I doubt that Betsy Ross was a slave owner but generally all the Blacks in America at that time were slaves forced to work for nothing/ whipped and tortured. Nike was right to pull the flag off its product. I don't think the company suffered after Colin joined them. Keep in mind that the headquarters for Nike is in Portland Oregon. This is a non-issue for much of the country.
     
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    I heard a panel discussion on the radio today and one person noted Obama had the flag behind them at his inauguration.

    Here from his second
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    https://images.search.yahoo.com/ima...hcWGo8lVR3h&fr=crmas&fr2=sb-top-images.search

    The ONLY reason the flag had suddenly overnight become an alleged symbol of racism is because a dumb athlete texted some executives at Nike and present his false narrative and the cowed to him. If we are going to adopt the standard that if some unnoteworthy racist displays it the entire country must give it then we need an entirely new flag and will probably had to create a new one every month so. The current flag has 13 stripes representing those colonies the arse is complaining about so let's tear them all down before we celebrate the 4th tomorrow in fact we need to call off the 4th entire don't you think?
     
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