UN, singles out Israel as world’s only violator of women’s rights

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  1. Giftedone

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    You are not correct - he was not aware of the atrocities that actually happened at the time he was writing - I looked it up. You mischaracterized what he said.

    Regardless - it is still ad hom.. that Chomsky has some leftist political leanings does not mean everything he says is incorrect - which is what you were trying to claim.
     
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    Gaza is under blockade on all its borders by sea and land. By your own admission upthread, this is an act of war.

    And Israel's goal, unstated in official circles, is to drive every last Palestinian out of Palestine. Hamas is resisting this. Ask yourself why the people of Gaza would elect such an organization if the conditions they live under where not so oppressive and dire?
     
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    The US refuses to follow international law as it bind their ability to wage economic and military warfare on nations it does not like. Hence it's refusal to abide by the international court of justice, its refusal to negotiate arms reduction treaties and its continual veto of resolutions regarding Israels occupation of Palestine and refusal to live to the terms of the UN charter and the 4th Geneva convention.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Because the UN has been taken over by crap nations.
     
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    There's about half a million Jews evicted from Arab soil after 1948. Their homes, properties and
    businesses taken from them. This is illegal occupation of Jewish soil. I understand that the first
    UN case will soon begin to return these properties. I won't be holding my breath.
     
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    How about his own words then? Are you also an admirer of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot? http://www.paulbogdanor.com/chomsky/quotes.html
     
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    The UN is going on my hit list.. along with Liberals and morons
     
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    One of the main reasons for the Iranian revolution was to nationalize the oil industry. AKA steal is from BP who built it all.
     
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    The problem is that Chomsky really is a leading intellectual of the Left, and one cannot condemn them more than by just pointing this out.
     
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    Like they did with Gaza? Got up and left (only occupied it because of the war.)
    Gazans trashed all the industry the Israelis left them, including large greenhouses.
    Just a few weeks ago Hamas fired 600 rockets into Israel.
    It's possible that Hamas could eventually take over the West Bank.
     
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    How could conspiracy theorists ever exist without claims 'unstated in official circles'.
     
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    So he held opinions which were unsupported by facts. Truly an inspiration to every Leftist.
     
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    Norm Chomsky = misinformed dirtbag.
     
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    You are putting the cart before the horse.
    The're religion demands they kill the Jews.
    Israel has to protect itself from their religion.
    If the Pallies made Islam illegal, most of their problems would melt away.
     
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    Chomsky is not an "admirer" of Pol Pot, Stalin or Mao. Get off the pipe. Pick a quote as I don't have time for you posting a link with numerous quotes - most of which are not related to your claim.
     
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    Why are you blubbering nonsensical gibberish - If you have a point to make then back it up = show an opinion you are referring to and argue your case... and lose the generalization/ demonization idiocy.
     
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    The odd thing is - these nations think the Jews should leave Palestine and go live
    in some other country under minority status.
    There's half a million Jews expelled from Middle East nations (in some cases the
    Jews were there longer than the current races) but the Jews cannot return to these
    nations. And as far as I can tell, there's no other nation that wants about six million
    Israelis.
    So maybe the Jews should just lay down and die, or let the Muslims slit their
    throats.
     
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    Of course the hard left won't say it admires these rogues, they say instead there should be some
    ambiguous "third way." They would say that - the hard left created the "second way", ie Communism.

    Lots of the "peace movement" denied supporting Ho Chi Minh. But they did support him materially
    by forcing America to abandon Indo China to the Communists. There was a saying in Sth Vietnam
    after the fall of Saigon (no cheering crowds there) "Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do."
     
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    This resolved in 1994, under international law, almost 25 years ago.
    Israel responded to an act of aggression, as per her rights under the UN charter.
    She didn't need to ask anyone permission, for her reaction, or approval for the scope of her reaction.
     
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    The Egyptians currently blockade Gaza?
    Why haveb't the Gaza Palestinians attacked Egypt?
    Lack of Jews?
    Unsupportable nonsense.
     
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    Perhaps you should have learned more about Chomsky before you became an admirer.

    "— Maoist China
    “But take China, modern China; one also finds many things that are really quite admirable... a good deal of the collectivization and communization was really based on mass participation and took place after a level of understanding had been reached in the peasantry...”
    (Alexander Klein, ed., Dissent, Power and Confrontation [McGraw-Hill, 1971], pp. 117-8)
    — Stalinist North Vietnam
    “I would like to express the great joy that we feel in your accomplishments... Your heroism reveals the capabilities of the human spirit and human will.”
    (Radio Hanoi, April 14, 1970)
    — Pol Pot’s Cambodia
    “the evacuation of Phnom Penh, widely denounced at the time and since for its undoubted brutality, may actually have saved many lives. It is striking that the crucial facts rarely appear in the chorus of condemnations.”
    (After the Cataclysm [South End Press, 1979], p. 160)"

    http://www.paulbogdanor.com/chomsky/quotes.html
     
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    As I can see the thread has fallen into a discussion of whether or not Israel has the right to blockade Gaza and occupy the West Bank. But nobody so far has explained how Israel allegedly mistreats women compared to men.

    It looks like people in the UN were thinking this way "Oh, what is the hot topic today? Women's rights, aren't they? Wonderful, let's use it against Israel!".

    On the other hand, there are many Jewish women being kept captives in the Palestinian villages. Some of them were stupid enough to come there voluntarily with their Palestinian boyfriends and husbands and then were forbidden from leaving (in some cases they were forced to escape leaving their children behind). But there are also women who were plainly abducted by Palestinians.

    And by the way it's ok for a Muslim man to date or to marry non-muslim women, but it's strictly forbidden for a Muslim women to have a relationships outside their religion.

    Now let's talk about women's rights.
     
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    They have to walk around wearing a tent, but I bet some of the fat women like it.


    Tabari IX:113
    "Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an."
     
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    As your post goes on to explain, it is for "allegedly being the “major obstacle” for Palestinian women with regard to their advancement, self-reliance, and integration in the development of their society.”
    Which is ridiculous, but how does this mean that they singled out Israel as the "world's only violator of women’s rights?"
     
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    Read it again.
     

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