The US is becoming a dangerous place to live

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  1. Moonglow

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    Unfortunately you can be very cautious your entire life and still end up dead..
     
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    The Democrats hypocritical movements as in - Occupy Wall Street -\
    then BlackLivesMatter and now Antifa.
    Having the unmitaged gall to accuse Republicans of being Violent.
    Name for me One Republican Pol who name calls a Democrat
    as Pelosi and Reid did to Republicans.Now it's " Moscow Mitch ".
    Obama used the word TeaB*ggers.
     
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    Im glad you asked

    We live in a society of half truths.
    We live in a society with more entitlement and less personal responsibility.
    We live in a society with less parenting and more baby sitting.
    We live in a society with more fantasy and less reality.

    We have created this society. We all have a hand in it.
     
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    Grand Theft Auto, where you literally go around killing innocent people was released before Columbine. I agree that was the first mass shooting of innocents.
     
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    I guess you are ignoring prior mass murders like the St. Valentines Day massacre and the Texas tower massacre???We have always been plagued with gun massacres, all of my life, although I will acknowledge they have gotten much worse recently.
     
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    And let's not forget deplorables emboldened by trump's racist demagoguery.
     
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    Ah yes, the hysterical and illogical TDS narrative based on the left's sick obsession with race.
     
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    Donald Trump has not actually called for violence to be administered against anyone, nor has he directly called for anyone to be murdered.
     
  9. Balto

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    While guns are blamed, I blame the culture as well. The issue is not at all singular. Kids today play ultra violent video games, where there’s no consequence to countless killings. They have become desensitized to the violence.
     
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    Urban US is becoming a dangerous place to live.

    Outside the densest population centers, the US is one of the safest places on earth.
     
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    It is the culture. Guns are part of a symptom. A very loud part. Kids have been desensitized to the real world because we have instilled in them the idea that the world is as you wish it to be. When reality sets in they are lost.
     
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    Not necessarily.

    I remember an Amish schoolhouse being attacked in Lancaster, PA. We have approached a time in America where we constantly have to look over our shoulder—and question everyone.
     
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    Greg Gutfeld suggested that the massive number of violent, realistic video games is a factor in the rising death toll of gun massacres. He pointed out to the increase in head shots. He suggested that such games are enabling potential shooters to hone their skills.
     
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    That’s basically what I’m saying. In addition to gun manufacturers, we should be holding video game developers accountable for the influence their games give off.
     
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    I don't think video games can explain this new phenomenon. Perhaps they are part of it, but in video games, you can win. These people -- the shooters -- are committing suicide, or at least guaranteeing a life in prison. I don't rule out Trump's rhetoric, although you don't get the impression that most of these people were active in a white supremacist organization beforehand. For one thing, their actions don't actually advance the cause of 'white supremacy' in any sense. And many of these shootings are nothing to do with white supremacy -- not to mention those where Islamic rhetoric could be blamed.

    I don't put a lot of faith in academic studies, which often are designed to fortify the prejudices of those who conduct them, but there must be some studies of 'why they do it' -- the background of the killers, what we know of their personal psychology, etc.

    It's just an impression, but a lot of them seem to be social isolates and they're making a gesture against a society from which they feel alienated. This can certainly take a political form -- depending on who you are, you can strike out against the manifestation of society that bothers you the most -- Black/brown people, Christians, Jews, policemen. But why is this happening now, and not, say, fifty years ago? We did have the occasional seemingly-unmotivated mass killing when I was young -- for example, a crazy man in my home city walked into an elementary school wth a suitcase of dynamite and set it off; the Texas tower sniper (he had a brain tumor). But nothing like this.
     
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    Mass shootings have become more and more common since Virginia Tech in 2007. So we have had a decade now of bloodshed.
     
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    Nope. Gotta disagree on holding gun manufacturers and video game developers responsible. And I hate the whole concept of video games. Personal responsibility. Every single person is responsible for what they do. If someone tells me to go jump in a lake, and I do it and drown, that doesn't make them responsible. Everyone has to be responsible for their own behavior and stop making excuses. Parents used to teach their children this.
     
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    Considering that tens, if not hundreds, of millions of people bought groceries and/or went to church/prayed today without getting shot, wouldn't you consider your statement to be just as ridiculous as the other? Did you get shot the last time you went grocery shopping? The United States is not anywhere near as bad as you proclaim it to be.
     
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    It’s not as dangerous as other countries, but it’s growing more and more dangerous with every mass shooting we have. The second statement you quoted is not mine.
     
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    Rockstar Games, which makes Grand Theft Auto and Activision, which makes Call of Duty, some of the most violent games, should be called into Washington to explain how they are “not” influencing wannabe shooters. We did it with tobacco companies, we can do the same here. Remington has been held responsible for Sandy Hook, time to do the same for these developers. Times like these call for it.
     
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    Surely you caught the point that if mitchscove's comment (the second quote) is ridiculous, then yours is too?

    You must admit that "you can no longer pray or buy groceries without being shot" is somewhat stretching the truth?
     
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    mass shootings in the U.S. are anomalies no matter how much press attention they get.
     
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    I was speaking statistically, of course. Nowhere is entirely safe. But rural America is about as safe from violence as one can be without surrounding oneself with guards or hiding in a hole.

    The town I live in has had one shooting in the 10 years I've lived here, and the shooter was an illegal visiting (read: here harrassing people) from a large city 45 minutes away. He shot two cops who then killed him.

    Our next biggest violence problem is the occassional fist fight at the bar.

    This is about par for most of America. The bulk of our violence statistics come from the urban centers.
     
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    I still don't think violent video games contribute to it, and there is no data to indicate that they do.
     
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    The US might becoming more dangerous, but it's far from the most dangerous. As I posted yesterday, there are only two countries in the Americas with a better murder rate than us, Canada and Argentina. Even Greenland has a higher murder rate than we do.
     

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