Finding and Fixing the root causes of Mass Shootings

What is the source of such a citation?

 

Do such statistics limit themselves exclusively to incidents where the firearm was legally owned by an individual with no criminal record? Or do they include incidents where at least one of the participants was a criminal and thus legally prohibited from firearms possession due to a preexisting felony conviction at the time?

 

I think they'll be on the side of the Constitution. At least all the ones I know will.

I'm sure the SJW police departments in places like Broward and CA will be willing though.

 

Sheriffs are already refusing to enforce federal gun regs. Some municipalities pushing to become gun owner sanctuaries. Just like immigration laws state and local police can refuse to do the job of federal law enforcement. (D)'s set a pretty dangerous precedent ... again.

 

Were you given a 10 point infraction for posting that revolting photo ?

 

Charles Whitman who was a hunter before joining the Marine Corps was probably America's first mass shooter.

From out to 400 yards and beyond he got 47 hits with 16 kills.

All of his kills were from using a bolt action Remington Mod 700 and a slide action Remington Mod 141 deer hunting rifles.

Whitman did have a semi-auto M-1 carbine but that was his back up rifle that he never got around using.

The AR-15 had been on the shelves of sporting goods stores for over five years when the Texas University mass shooting took place. But Whitman being a hunter and a former Marine weapon of choice for committing a mass shooting on a school campus was bolt action and slide action deer hunting rifles.

 

You can whine all you want to about Democrats and cities, but the fact is cities vote for Democrats, because they sure as hell don't want Republicans. Poor people aren't going to vote for Republicans.

Now, you want to post a bunch of lies to make it look like Democrats destroyed cities, which is total nonsense. Why? You want those votes and you aren't going to get them. You just can't get it thru your head, it isn't that they are voting for Democrats, they are voting against Republicans. Can't you tell by how people post of political forums that people who don't fancy themselves as conservatives and Republicans don't see eye to eye with them on issues? You should have seen the full picture long ago, that these and many other people don't trust the Republicans, because the Republicans have destroyed that trust.

 

Of course they aren't they are desperate and desperately afraid. So they accept democratic bribes and continue to support a system that will keep them poor in perpetuity

 

You have nothing to offer and the entire history of the Republican Party proves it. You only have yourself to blame now you've found yourself between a rock and a hard place and even if you fixed that, it would be too late.

 

Back on topic. One of the root causes ot mass shootings is our current President.

Describing neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and members of the KKK who participated in an armed invasion of Charlottesville, VA, Trump said, "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

Describing four women of color who are members of Congress and known as "The Squad," Trump said, “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.”

When Trump announced his candidacy in 2015, he said, "When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists."

At a political rally in El Paso in February, Trump said ICE had picked up immigrants for tens of thousands of crimes, and ticked off a list of those crimes and the stats that he claimed accompanied them. He further claimed there were "4,000 immigrant murderers swept up by ICE in the previous two years." The White House could not substantiate the claim. “Murders, murders, murders. Killings. Murders,” Trump said maniacally, prompting chants of “build the wall” from the crowd.

"Invasion. Aliens. Killers. Criminals." Those are among the words Trump repeatedly uses while discussing immigrants during his campaign rallies, according to a USA TODAY analysis of the transcripts from more than five dozen of those events.

Patrick W. Crusius, 21, told police that he had targeted Mexicans. He wrote a four-page manifesto that said he was carrying out the attack in “response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas.”

Politico reports, "House Minority Whip Steve Scalise on Sunday called it “a very slippery slope” to blame President Donald Trump’s rhetoric for deadly mass shootings in recent weeks."

“But to try to assign blame to somebody else, I think, is a very slippery slope because the president's no more responsible for that shooting as your next guest, Bernie Sanders, is for my shooting,” said Scalise"

What a crock of pathetic bullshit! Republicans are desperate to explain away Trump's dangerous rhetoric. Of course, giving us a load of B.S. is a lot easier on television where Trump's inflammatory rhetoric in not evident.

 

Trump thinks all the problems facing mankind can be solved with rhetoric. Last week, Trump went to a great deal of trouble to convince his base that, when it comes to meaningful background checks to eliminate all the loopholes, he really means it. Of course, everyone else did not believe him because they have heard all this before and, in some cases, they knew he was outright lying.

In 2013, Trump said he supported background checks for gun purchases to “weed out the sickos.” Two years later, he flip-flopped and said he opposed expanded checks.

In late February the White House issued a statement warning that Trump would veto proposed legislation to enhance background checks for gun purchases if it passes the House and Senate.

In 2018 Trump, after the high school shooting in Parkland, Fla., insisted that stronger checks would be “fully backed” by the White House. But that position only lasted a few days. After a late-night meeting with the National Rifle Association in the Oval Office Trump backed down and nothing happened.

On Friday, in the wake of massacres in El Paso and Dayton, Ohio, Trump presented himself now as a deal-maker eager to bring Democrats and Republicans together behind tougher background checks. Please, no one laugh. This is serious.

On the way to his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. Trump said Friday that there was “tremendous” support for “really common-sense sensible, important background checks” even as the NRA. and gun rights supporters vowed to oppose them. The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, was “on board,” Trump said.

Trump was lying.

In a written statement issued Thursday, Wayne LaPier, NRA's CEO, said none of the gun control proposals being discussed would have prevented the most recent attacks. “Worse, they would make millions of law abiding Americans less safe and less able to defend themselves and their loved ones,” the statement said. He described many of the proposals as “soundbite solutions” that “fail to address the root of the problem, confront criminal behavior or make our communities safer.”

That doesn't sound like the NRA is onboard.

Neither is McConnell. With some skepticism as to how this will play out, he expressed a willingness to consider a measure expanding background checks for all gun purchasers, saying it will be “front and center” in a coming Senate debate on how to respond to gun violence. There is nothing new here. The House passed a universal background check bill in February. So, what McConnell is saying has been true for months. He is just buying time, knowing this will blow over and grassroots Republicans want nothing to do with the Democratic bill. It matters little what Trump says.

“There’s never been a president like President Trump,” Trump said as he left for a 10-day vacation.

Stop that! No one should laugh.

This source helped me with this report: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/us/politics/gun-background-checks.html

 

That was what...nearly 60 years ago? And since then how many shootings like it?

None? Newsflash...the guy was an expert marksman. Few mass killers are

Paduch in Vegas managed over 500 hits at significant yardage because he was shooting an assault weapon

 

Trump has called immigrants "animals" and "vermin". Made no distinction between the relatively few criminals among them and the vast majority that aren't ,decrying rapists and drug dealers as if they are all in some way criminals.

Dehumanizing and demonizing leads to murder

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2017/11/on-the-military-and-civilian-history-of-the-ar-15/545660/

Do you have any evidence the so-called AR-15s mentioned as civilian sales were sold in sporting goods stores? I think they all went to law enforcement and Vietnam. The civilian version was approved in December, 1963.

"In November 1963, McNamara approved the U.S. Army's order of 85,000 XM16E1s;[29][44]:380, 392 and to appease General LeMay, the Air Force was granted an order for another 19,000 M16s.[50][44]:380 In March 1964, the M16 rifle went into production and the Army accepted delivery of the first batch of 2129 rifles later that year, and an additional 57,240 rifles the following year.[8]"

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15

https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a953110.pdf

You have enough sense to know the difference between sniping and mass murder using assault weapons. A sniper doesn't use a hundred round magazine. Mass murderers aren't taking a tour to accomplish their kills, that Dayton murderer could have beat Charles Whitman's hits and kills in less than a minute.

 

Charles Whitman was a member of the "Silent Majority Generation. (Luckiest Generation)

He grew up when America was great and guns were so easily available you were able to buy them using a Sears mail order catalog.

Those of the "Luckiest Generation" along with the "Baby Boomer Generation" were never exposed or indoctrinated into cultural-marxism aka political correctness, revisionist history, diversity and other Marxist ideology.

Boys played with Mattel toy guns that looked real, they played cowboys and indians, cops and robbers and war.

Around when they were ten or twelve years old they found a Red Ryder BB gun under the Christmas tree.

As a young teenager they got their first .22 rifle.

As young teens they played contact sports and spent more time outdoors than watching television.

Then they discovered girls.

They were never indoctrinated in political correctness or played video games or watched a Quentin Tarantino movie. Even the Democratic party back in the day was a nationalist political party as was the GOP.

Mass shooting started happening with millennial snowflakes who were exposed and indoctrinated by the cultural-marxist from birth.

Re: Las Vegas mass shooting.

The mass shooter Stephen Paddock had 22 AR's.
Every AR that had a bumpstock jammed on him.

Paddock had no military training or had much knowledge about guns, how they work and the proper way of rapid fire shooting or using a rifle that was firing at full auto rate of fire.

That morning when I turned on the television I saw a video of the shootings and heard the rounds being shot.
First thing I said, "It sounds like a full automatic rifle fire"

Then I said who ever this guy is he never served in the Army or Marine Corps because that's not the proper way of firing a full automatic weapon.

I was right, every AR that Paddock used with a bumstock has a stoppage and jammed on him.

AR's fire from a close bolt. They aren't attended to fire full automatic or more than 60 rounds per minute in the semi auto mode.

Paddock fired over 1,000 rounds with only 59 kills.
Thank God he was never a soldier, Marine or a real hunter.

 

I remember AR-15's being on the shelves during 59 and the early 60's.
Can't say anyone was buying them because most sportsmen were rejecting them.

Don't remember any law enforcement agency ever having AR-15's during the 1960's, why would they need them ?
No such thing as SWAT back in the day.
The SWAT we know of today was born with in the LAPD seeing it's first action against the leftist/Marxist SLA aka
Symbionese Liberation Army in 1974.


An original Colt AR-15 advertisement from the early 1960s.

 

59 and early 60s? No, I know for a fact they didn't even have the AR-15 approved until December, 1963 and I've posted evidence of the government military contracts, which Colt wasn't able to fill in years after the orders. When Colt can't supply the military, Colt isn't putting guns in sporting goods stores.

A person who is familiar with the M-16A1 can easily see the few changes between it and a Colt AR-15 SP1. When you consider the manufacturing of each weapon, the M-16A1 has extra and some slightly different parts, it would take a little more time boring holes during previous production, but that time and cost gets offset by the extra things added to the AR-15 SP1 to prevent easy conversion to auto. Like I've said all along, these light-weight military weapons are designed for war. The war design is to make a light weight, lethal weapon that is easy to control.

 

Before ArmaLite sold the rights to manufacture the AR-15 and M-16 to Colt, Armalite sold it's AR-15's to the civilian public.

1954
ArmaLite was founded as a division of Fairchild Engine and Aircraft Corporation. While most people equate the AR 15 Rifle with military variants, the company was actually founded with the goal of developing civilian market guns using modern materials and manufacturing technologies.

The initial business plan called for establishing some success with commercial products, then using that momentum to get into the government and military business...

https://www.ammoland.com/2016/04/ar-15-rifle-historical-time-line/#axzz5wPxpbfhN

Business 101:
You can't stay in business to long with just a military contract.

The American sporting arms industry keeps the military small arms industry in business.

 

That's nonsense.

The whole concept of the ArmaLite program was to make a better weapon than the AK-47. Stoner was always involved with the government. It's just common sense to use lightweight materials. In order to meet the military rifle range requirements, a certain barrel length is needed. After that, it's just a matter of deciding on the caliber that gives a logistics advantage, but is still effective in war.

 

The AK-47 hadn't even gone to war in any of the Cold War proxy wars when Armalite was dabbling around with the AR-10.

The USSR dumped the AK-47 during the mid 1970's and adopted the AK-74.

It would take almost a decade before the CIA got their hands on a AK-74 in Afghanistan.

Actually it was "Soldiers of Fortune" magazine that got their hands on the AK-74 and turned it over to U.S. authorities.

Remember, before 1980 the M-16A1 was not considered to be an assault rifle because it isn't an assault rifle.

The U.S. military was forced to call the M-16 an assault rifle by Democrats In Congress to further an anti gun agenda in Congress.

The M-16A1, M-14, M-1 Garand were just service rifles or infantry rifles.

The term "battle rifle" was coined around the same time when the U.S. military was forced to call the M-16 service rifle an assault rifle.

 

Semantics has nothing to do with the reality that the ArmaLite project was designed to make military weapons. Look at the name and the fact that they built the AR-10 first, which uses 7.62mm NATO rounds. Obviously NATO rounds weigh more than AK rounds, so finding a sub .30 cal. cartridge that is logistically superior to AK rounds was the focus. The AK-74 is a similar advancement using 5.54x39mm to replace the 7.62x39mm AK-47. The logistics of the ammunition load for an AK-74 is 18 magazines of 540 rounds. Magazine development allowed the AK-47 to have an initial ammunition load of 11 magazines of 330 rounds to 13 magazines of 390 rounds at it's peak. Ammunition load is the amount of ammo the average person can carry.

 

Seems to be okay with our current president...

 

We offer a way out you offer perpetual poverty...