Trump Says He Supports 'Intelligent' Background Checks

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    No, politician should be trusted, but Trump is not likely to alienate much of his base in an election cycle by signing a gun control law. Doing that would be Beto stupid.
     
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    no, england is safer because it takes liberty away in exchange for government handouts.

    they proportionally have less crime than America
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't know what he's proposing, you're just running with your imagination.
     
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    5 years after the gun ban the UK was “A nation of criminals”.

    “The results of the 2000 International Crime Victims Survey (ICVS), published by the Dutch Ministry of Justice, are deeply embarrassing to a government which has promised to be “tough on crime and the causes of crime”. That perhaps explains why the Home Office, which co-operated on the English part of the survey, says it has no plans to publish the findings.”

    “According to a new victimisation survey of industrialised nations, people in England and Wales are at greater risk than anywhere else of having a car stolen. And apart from Australia, people who live in England and Wales are at greater risk of being assaulted, robbed, sexually attacked and having their homes burgled than are people in any other rich country.”
    THE ECONOMIST, A nation of criminals, Feb 22nd 2001.
    http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=513031

    Crime in the UK looks even worse now in spite of efforts to cover up and under report crime.
     
  5. truth and justice

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    Nearly 20 years old LOL
     
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    And by the end of 2018, New York, one of the safest American cities, had a higher murder rate in 2018 than London, one of the UK's most dangerous cities
     
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  8. Ddyad

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    Are you manning the barricades in "Lawless London"? ;-)

    THE DAILY START. Lawless London: Worried residents building BARRICADES around their homes, By Rachel O'Donoghue / Published 25th August 2018.
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/la...val-london-acid-attack-barricades-homes-shops
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    TJ, paste up that "murder rate claim" from my posts. ;-)
     
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    no, the royals in england give their peasants free stuff to remain civilised.

    you must be thinking of the commies in venezuela, they are not originally a white country and are unable to run it properly.
     
  12. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Why is it the President's responsibility to do anything about guns? He is not a dictator. It is up to the Congress Critters to write laws.

    Strictly speaking, all federal gun laws should be declared unconstitutional because the Constitution does not give the federal government the right to control guns. Gun control is a State issue but the States can't ban guns because that it a violation of the 2nd Amendment. Some States have very liberal gun laws and some have more restrictive laws. The first gun control law was passed by a State. It prohibited the carrying of concealed guns but the State court eventually declared it unconstitutional.

    "The individual right interpretation of the Second Amendment first arose in Bliss v. Commonwealth (1822),[18]which evaluated the right to bear arms in defense of themselves and the state pursuant to Section 28 of the Second Constitution of Kentucky (1799). The right to bear arms in defense of themselves and the state was interpreted as an individual right, for the case of a concealed sword cane. This case has been described as about "a statute prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons [that] was violative of the Second Amendment".[19]

    The first state court decision relevant to the "right to bear arms" issue was Bliss v. Commonwealth. The Kentucky court held that "the right of citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State must be preserved entire,..."[20]:161[21]"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_States

    The federal government got involved because white gangsters kept shooting up the place in the 1920s and 1930s. Later on it started writing more restrictions because JFK got shot and they didn't want blacks to have guns during the various race riots. Then the Jews took control of the gun banning movement and now the aim is to eliminate all guns from the population.
     
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    Hell, people steal guns from cop cars everyday. When has a criminal ever given a damn about a law?

    WDSU Investigates: More than 90 guns stolen from police cars in metro New Orleans
    Updated: 10:30 AM CST Nov 21, 2018
    https://www.wdsu.com/article/wdsu-i...rom-police-cars-in-metro-new-orleans/25244048


    So much for that silly "intelligent background check."
     
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    I am thinking of the UK.

    THE ECONOMIST, A nation of criminals, Feb 22nd 2001.

    A nation of civilized criminals?

    VZ is very white and and very f'd up.
    Calling them "commies" would make Marx spin.
     
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    Or they can by guns from the same kind of vendors that sell illegal drugs and other contraband. In the UK it is as easy as ordering pizza.
     
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    The royals of England have very little to do with what the UK does.
     
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    Trump is proposing a cooling off period after events, these shootings, and allowing the emotion drummed up by liberals to ebb. Once liberals finally climb off the pile of corpses and stop screaming, people tend to realize this isn't an issue that is solved by some petty law, its deeper than that. No new infringements are likely coming now...
     
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    Yeah, they are just waiting for the commoners to F it all up and then they'll put them all on their knees again...
     
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    Because of course the Republican creeps like Mitchell are too scared to cross Trump and do their job of protecting the American people.

    And you know the same " logic" you used as to why Congress is responsible gor gun safety can be applied to illegal immigrants as well.
     
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    Legality is not a benchmark for legitimacy.

    The US "nation" is just a legal fiction maintained by coercion and fraud.
     
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    "Trump Says He Supports 'Intelligent' Background Checks"

    yeah, he sad that last tme too, then the NRA told hm he could not thnk that way Trump is a NRA puppet
     
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    Sorta like when Democrats say we need "smarter" immigration laws? Or "smarter" environmental laws which is code for "I don't know what to do".
     
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    So you are agreeing that Trump is clueless
     
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    And then you'll double down while saying that the original plan was fake news.

    Once again a silly sop being thrown to people who have lost their families for no reason. Nothing will stop the carnage until we stop the guns and the NRA has us all convinced that guns just cannot be regulated in any meaningful way despite the fact that almost every other civilized nation on Earth does just fine.
     
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    If you pick up all the guns you will still have millions of twisted souls driven crazy by modrrn liberal culture

    The worst of those will find other ways to kill
     

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