Whistleblower complaint against Trump declassified, could be released Thursday

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  1. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

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    I was watching it live, so dishonorable and flat out disgusting.

    I laughed my ass off when the other Congressman (was it Rattcliff?) called him out for flat out lying, all he wants is a CNN clip recorded
     
  2. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Thanks... I wanted to listen to Schiff's opening statement again....
     
  3. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah... bring up "tone"... that's going to make this all go away, isn't it...

    The D's are being MEAN...

    Boo Freaking Hoo...

    The nation will only be able to continue on it's rightful course in history with a different President, be that D or R... T is not a sustainable model....
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah... keep up the indoctrination. It is filled with lies, duplicity, and ridiculous events that never happened. It's perfect for lockstep leftists.
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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  6. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

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    Tone?

    lol

    I talk about how your party has shrunk to the point that you only listen to your radicals. The Democratic Party has been shrinking for a decade, you Progressives have been lying to the Democrats and saying that is because "They aren't Progressive enough!"

    That line makes anyone on the Right happy, the further Left you go and the louder your "tone" is, the smaller your party becomes and the more insignificant your ideals are to the nation.

    But I love it! You guys can't help but give us more examples of your "Deconstruction" tactics are completely useless now, the nation see's them for what they are and the vast majority ignores it.

    YouTube views
    Fox vs CNN/MSBC
    Talk Radio
    Even blogs and forums

    Conservatives have literally taken over the audience of every single one of these, your media sites are shutting down one by one, if you don't change your tactics, you will lose everything.
     
  7. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Jesus you can’t even follow the conversation?
    You called the WB a deep state criminal. The DNI praises him. Got it now?
     
  8. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Agree... he's just typing random letters and some of them make words... I'm done with him (for the day... he can try again another day)
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    And yet, you got your asses kicked in the 2018 midterms and R's around the country are quitting en masse before 2020... they may not be very ethical, but they aren't stupid...
     
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    White House officials who listened to the call were "deeply disturbed" by Trump's requests that Zelensky investigate former vice president and 2020 presidential hopeful Joe Biden and revisit claims related to the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

    "I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election," the whistleblower wrote. "This interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the President's main domestic political rivals."

    The complaint describes concerns among White House officials that Trump pressured Zelensky to investigate Biden — and that the call was the culmination of a series of events meant to pressure the new Ukrainian president to bend to Trump's will, including dispatching Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani to lean on Ukrainian officials to probe Biden.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/26/congress-releases-whistleblower-complaint-alleging-trump-abused-his-office-1514008
    The truth that is emerging about Trump has him hysterical. Lashing out and blaming everyone else is not an effective defense.

    I was hoping that he could hang on to finish his term, but it's looking very bad. Very, very bad.

    The call occurred after Trump had ordered a freeze of nearly $400 million in American aid to Ukraine, which the administration only later released. Before the call, Ukraine’s government was told that interaction between Zelenskiy and Trump depended on whether the Ukrainian leader would “play ball,” the whistleblower said...

    ...The whistleblower report also said, citing multiple U.S. officials, that senior White House officials had intervened to “lock down” records of the call.

    “Instead the transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature,” the report said. “One White House official described this act as an abuse of this electronic system because the call did not contain anything remotely sensitive from a national security perspective.”...

    Trump has repeatedly suggested wrongdoing by Biden and his son but has offered no evidence to back up the assertion. There has been no evidence that Biden used his position to help his son in the Ukraine matter...

    Maguire said there was no reason to believe the whistleblower was disloyal to the United States or a political hack.

    “I believe the whistleblower and the inspector general have acted in good faith throughout,” he said, also referring to intelligence community Inspector General Michael Atkinson, who determined that the whistleblower allegations appeared credible and were of urgent concern.

    “I think the whistleblower did the right thing. I think he followed the law every step of the way,” Maguire said.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower/whistleblower-complaint-describes-white-house-cover-up-on-trump-ukraine-scandal-idUSKBN1WB0E5?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+Top+News%29
     
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  11. Dutch

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    My friend,

    Aren't you the one who always says, Hillary's an innocent saint cos' she was never convicted?

    Was Trump ever convicted in anything you accuse him of?
     
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    what was interesting is the part about the Trump admin hiding other phone calls like this one, I hope Congress gets access to them
     
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    hell, you still think Hillary is not corrupt!
     
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    Hillary used private email, same as the Trump children.... doesn't compare

    not to mention the Bush admin also used personal email, one even using AOL mail

    Trump may even be using a private phone
     
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    Imagine the time and resources you could waste expanding this witchhunt to every phone call Trump has ever made. That should go over really well with the average American; it should be a great step in getting foreign leaders etc to keep trusting us too. Go for it!
     
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    It was "do us a favor" and had nothing to do with Biden but the foreign interference in the election

    Mr. Trump responds, "I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it."

    Nothing to do with the campaign or Biden
     
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    that is Congresses job.... if there is suspected wrongdoing, they need to investigate

    Trump released the first Transcript, not Congress.... the others will only be released if he did something criminals on them
     
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    You think they are supposed to be posted on Facebook or something? Did Obama release transcripts of his conversations with foreign leaders? Can you give me the links?
     
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    do you think I said that?

    I do want to see them if there is anything criminal on them, but regardless if released or not, I want Congress to review them

    what are you referring to about Obama? can you give me links?

    this is part of a whistle-blower complaint, Congress needs to investigate, if Trump did nothing wrong, we will never see them (unless Trump releases them)
     
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    Clearly not. But, when you present a Democrat with the truth, they will scream, "IMPEACH!!!". There is no real desire for the truth by them, just IMPEACH!
     
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    intent is that it's his political rival... common sense

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

    Trump "The ot�er thing, There's a lot 6f. talk about Biden's son,. that Eiden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you ·can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me."

    President Zelensky " I would also·like to thank you·for.your great support in the area of defense."

    Trump "I would like you to do us a favor though"

    ad now we know there is more calls they are hiding
     
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    Surprised trump didn’t ask for dirt on her lol
     
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    Hahha nice strawman attempt. You should read the WB report so you can stop being silly
     
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    Wtf why would Ukraine have the server and why does he want it? Does he stilll believe Putin over his own Intel Chiefs???
     
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    And you know he kicked that hornets nest on purpose.

    I suspect this was fed to the whistleblower, particularly the way in which he has no first hand knowledge, to find their leaker and set the Dems up.

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