Nunes Aide Is Leaking the Ukraine Whistleblower’s Name, Sources Say

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  1. Thought Criminal

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    LOL.

    It was in all the papers.
     
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    Then you are poorly informed and I can't help you.
     
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    Haven't noticed any but would probably discount them. If you see one that might be serious you can become a whistleblower yourself.
     
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    He worked in 2017 in the Trump White House,if I'm not mistaken.
    An Obama " holdover ". One reason for hiding his Identity is so he can't
    be questioned as to certain things.Like How did he get Firsthand Info on
    Donald Trump's personal phone call.
     
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    How do they know he's doing anything illegal and what are those "things'' you mention?

    How did this supposed whistleblower gain access to the classified conversation between the President and another world leader? And his workmates knew all about them too? That has happened three times that we know about. is the real scandal here, and must be investigated

    The IG's report is not cursory and will be released soon. We shouldn't get too excited before then because neither of us have all the facts yet.
     
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    I do what, there is no guaranty in the law.
     
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    Just out of curiosity, why would they cross examine him ? He already said he heard that from someone else, AND, if the transcript of the call shows what he said it did (which it already did), why would he even need to "testify"
    Asking a foreign nation for help in an election is illegal. There does not have to be a quid pro quo for that to be illegal.

    The whistleblower said that he overheard colleagues talking about the conversations. This wasn't trivial what the president did, in fact it was so bad that Zelenskyy, an army general went directly to his superiors to report what happened right after the call. If Zelensky did that, i would think that others who were privy to the conversation thought it the same, therefore they were talking about it a lot. This isnt some “gotcha moment”. The president did this unprompted, and those around him felt it was wrong, and thought it needed to be vetted for legality. This is EXACTLY why the Presidents calls are not only transcribed to keep records, but transcribed to understand exactly what was said.

    I agree on the IG’s report. We need to see what they thought of it, and its legality.
     
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    Yes there is. FFS read what it says. It says only the IG can release the name and only in certain circumstances

    Do you even know WHY whistleblower laws exist ? You cant be that obtuse
     
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    LoL says the same people who waged the largest war ever on actual whistleblowers under Obama.

    You guys are a hoot.
     
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    Where did I defend Obama for that ?
     
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    Those who actually give a damn about this country and the way it got
    Deep State'd.Under Obama our FBI became The Most incorrible in it's
    vaunted history.Same with the CIA under Brennan.
    Then Hillary at the State Dept.These are all proveable facts.
    From Comey to Brennan to Hillary.
     
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    By falsely claiming only the IG can release the identity of a whistleblower.

    Also, this individual does not classify as a "whistleblower".
     
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    Read the Law VMAN. It’s clearly posted. There are also many more laws that protect him, one of them actually signed by Obama to give them more protections

    How does this person not qualify as a whistleblower ?
     
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    Ok.

    Here's the form. Let's go over it:

    https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/Hotline/Urgent Concern Disclosure Form.pdf

    The ICWPA is the lawful mechanism for current Intelligence Community employees and contractors to disclose matters of “urgent concern” to the congressional intelligence committees, as defined by 50 U.S.C. § 3003.

    The ICWPA defines an “urgent concern” as:•A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or Executive Order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity within the responsibility and authority of the Director of National Intelligence involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.•A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. •An action, including personnel action described in 5 U.S.C. § 2302(a)(2)(A) of Title 5, constituting reprisal or threat of reprisal prohibited under subsection (g)(3)(B) of 50 U.S.C. § 3033 in response to an employee’s reporting an urgent concern in accordance with this section.

    Please show us where a member of the intelligence community can "whistleblow" against a Presidential phone call.

    You can't, because it's not covered.

    The "whistleblower" statute only applies to other members/operations of the intelligence community.

    There is no "whistleblower" statute that allows a member of the intelligence agency to first go to Congress for advice on how to leak the POTUS foreign policy calls.
     
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    Good lord.

    1. I never said this person was from the intelligence community, because I dont know that, nor do you. BUT, apparently he did qualify because this is what was used to protect him.

    2. It literally says in what you just posted that he can talk to congress:
    The ICWPA is the lawful mechanism for current Intelligence Community employees and contractors to disclose matters of “urgent concern” to the congressional intelligence committees

    Schiff is currently the Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.That pretty much covers him VMAN ?

    Unless you can show he is not covered, all the evidence we currently have says he can be covered
     
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    Exactly there is NO GUARANTY the whistleblower law is to prevent in the job retribution.
     
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    And what is that mechanism?
     
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    I agree. It's just terrible!

    Nonetheless, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) stated, "Well, as far as that particular person, regardless of whether or not he's a whistleblower, he apparently worked for [former CIA Director John] Brennan. He worked for H.R. McMaster. He worked for [Joe] Biden. He was tasked to the National Security Council on Ukraine." Gohmert then added, "And, gee, sounds like he's got bigger problems than being a whistleblower, regardless of whether he is or not."
     
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    This Whisteblower will have a job for life working for left wing anti American groups.
     
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    You should take your own advice and READ THE LAW

    1. Then clearly you've not educated yourself, because the "whistleblower" report is indeed from the intelligence community. So no, "whistleblowing" on the POTUS phone call is clearly not covered.

    2. It literally says but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.

    The "whistleblower" was not within his purview, and went outside of the valid purview, when leaking his nonsense report.
     
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    And this is why leftists are trying to make this the only "whistleblower" in history to remain anonymous.
     
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