BREAKING: House impeachment investigators release transcripts of first two deposition testimonies

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  1. squidward

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    He can legally remove any ambassador, anytime, for any reason
     
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    You've got that backwards.

    You're the one adding words to the transcript, not us.
     
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    READ THE LETTER
     
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    I have not added any words to the transcript. I have explained why Trump's request for an investigation into Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, and the Crowdstrike server is a request for campaign assistance.
     
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    Rudy's finances are currently under investigation, so you should have your answer shortly.
     
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    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Trump can be impeached for abusing his power by removing an ambassador because two foreign operatives funneled illegal money into a Trump Super PAC.
     
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    Isn't it funny that they specifically mentioned US Aid then specifically asked them to reopen a Ukraine investigation into Trump. Sounds a whole lot like what your claiming is a quid pro quo that Trump did...Neither actually said we'll withhold money but both mentioned it. Both asked for investigation into a political rival. Yet ofcourse you see Trump as a crime and the Senators just normal business, shocking.
    https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/...cutor of Ukraine on Mueller investigation.pdf
     
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    Oh I'm sure they are. *snore*
     
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    Yes you did.

    Nowhere does it say anything about "election assistance". You dreamed that all up on your own.

    Your theory is nonsense.

    Trump is within his authority to ask why Hunter's corrupt position was obtained, and to investigate Crowdstrikes involvement.

    You don't have to like it, but you'll see.
     
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    I'm not sure that I can explain why I believe in the nonexistence of something that doesn't exist.

    Maybe if I describe myself a bit?

    I'm something of a literalist. I am attracted to concrete, physical, provable realities. This is why I do not believe in any God nor other mysticisms.

    This latest hoax is so obviously based on some persons' professed opinions of another's motivations, that I must dismiss it on its face.

    Why do you promote something which doesn't exist?
     
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  12. MrTLegal

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    They did not ask or demand that Ukraine open an investigation into Trump nor did they threaten or imply a threat to withhold any money.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/the-democratic-letter-to-ukraine/

    READ THE LETTER
     
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    I doubt they can speak about the hearing without clearing it with Schiff for Brains or it wouldn't have been held in a SCIF room in the first place, that's the point.
     
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    Because I do not subscribe to a theory of criminal justice which prevents a jury from making an interpretation of a person's intent in the absence of their explicit confession.

    If you intend to commit a murder, but are unwilling to admit to your intention, then it should still be permissible for you to be found guilty of the crime of murder.
     
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    Testimony by whom?
     
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    Vindman
     
  17. Professor Peabody

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    Copy I'll be back.
     
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    Senior administration officials argued that his opening statement showed he had a "policy dispute" with the president and other White House officials over Ukraine aid.

    Voting records show Vindman was registered as a Democrat.


    He testified to his opinion as to what was said.

    Here's what Trump said..............

    The other thing, there’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.

    If Biden did what he bragged about doing, that would constitute an abuse of office as the Vice President. Being a rival candidate doesn't make any abuses and law breaking by him while VP above the law. Trump asked Zelenskyy to coordinate with the US Attorney General, NOT his campaign.



    If Biden really did this then he would be unfit for being President. If Biden didn't do it then it would go nowhere with the AG, if he did he should be brought to justice.

    The guy admitted to it on video tape, so of course it deserves further investigation to determine if he was BSing or he really did it. The guy wants to be President. We could ask Biden if he broke the law but he'll likely just say it wasn't true and he was bragging. So we have to ask the other side which is what Trump did. Judging by the reaction from the left, I'm thinkin he did it or they wouldn't care because there would be nothing there.

    That's NOT his call and using blackmail with US aid to do it would be Abuse of Office.....you can frame it anyway you'd like it's a crime. That's why Trump asked the Ukrainian President to coordinate with the U.S. AG.


    Sounds like a never Trumper that wanted to be Ambassador to Ukraine where he was born and didn't get it. Don't worry though he will get his chance to get grilled by the Republicans under oath and on the record.
     
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    I've never witnessed you do that.

    You seem to reach conclusions, post those conclusions as unassailable truth, and then thump yourself on the back.

    You won't read the deposition transcripts anyway, so why should I waste my time giving you a public spanking?
     
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    Yet your theory of the existence of a crime rests on opinion or speculation.
     
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    I read it and posted it for you to read. The mention aid, they ask for investigation into Trump. It's exactly the same thing Trump did on the call and you have Zero problem jumping from one paragraph to the next to somehow reach your quid pro quo but shockingly see no connection in the Senators letters. I wonder why???????
     
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    Way to show you didn’t bother trying to read it lol
     
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    And a whole host of sworn testimony from those personally involved in the Ukraine Pressure Campaign.
     
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    They did not ask or demand that Ukraine open an investigation into Trump nor did they threaten or imply a threat to withhold any money.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/the-democratic-letter-to-ukraine/

    READ THE LETTER
     
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    A whole host of opinion or speculation.
     

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