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WATCH LIVE: Public Impeachment Hearings

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MrTLegal, Nov 13, 2019.

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Duh!

     
    Hoosier8, Nov 13, 2019
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Of course you are. ;-)
     
    Ddyad, Nov 13, 2019
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  3. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Why?

    Both Sondland and Taylor just tesitified that they believe Giuliani was furthering the interest of trying to dig up dirt against Trump's domestic political opponent for the purpose of helping Trump in the next election cycle.
     
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  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet it never happened so...
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 13, 2019
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then your either intentionally not looking, or unintentionally lacking in the required knowledge to evaluate the actions as it pertains to the crime.

    either way, a lack of knowledge on your part doesn't constitute a lack of a criminal violation on Trumps part.
     
    Cubed, Nov 13, 2019
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  6. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just_a_Citizen, Nov 13, 2019
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  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Taylor and Kent are still giving opinion based on second and third hand rumors.
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 13, 2019
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    Of course it's wrong, but "wrong" is just his "opinion"

    Bolton and Mulvaney know that Trump made clear the aid and WH meeting was being held up as the QPQ for his politically motivated investigations (and one of them feels we should get over it)
     
    Egoboy, Nov 13, 2019
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  9. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No crime.

    It's a requirement.

    Talk about lack of knowledge.

    https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/106th-congress/16/document-text
     
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    Just_a_Citizen, Nov 13, 2019
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  10. Hoosier8

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    The 'crime' that didn't happen? Are you, like the dem clown show, calling Zelinsky a liar?
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 13, 2019
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  11. MrTLegal

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    What never happened?
     
    MrTLegal, Nov 13, 2019
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    He's exonerated again?!
     
    Nemesis, Nov 13, 2019
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  13. Natty Bumpo

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    Denial is an option, I suppose, just as climate change is a Chinese hoax.
     
    Natty Bumpo, Nov 13, 2019
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  14. Hoosier8

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    No quid pro quo. No statement to Ukraine of such. Funds released with no strings. Zelinsky says no pressure. Are you calling Zelinsky a liar?
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 13, 2019
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    LOL... your definition of trashing and mine are worlds apart... no point in trying to find common ground on that...

    Now, if he had brought up Sondland coming back in to update his testimony, that might have been trashing...
     
    Egoboy, Nov 13, 2019
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  16. MrTLegal

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    Not a lie.
     
    MrTLegal, Nov 13, 2019
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    Why? What facts of the QPQ does he have that others don’t?
     
    The Mello Guy, Nov 13, 2019
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just_a_Citizen, Nov 13, 2019
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    That is a policy disagreement, not a legal issue.

    Would it be 'wrong' if there were actual Biden corruption that was covered up?
     
    Paul7, Nov 13, 2019
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    Yet there is still no evidence, just opinion based on 2nd and 3rd hand rumors, and of course the dem clown show narrative.
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 13, 2019
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    That's the accusation of the moment, yes.
    For this to be true, however, there are -several- crucial facts not in evidence.
     
    TOG 6, Nov 13, 2019
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    I am a Trump supporter, but I am a harsh critic of RP/DP pols. I am bipartisan but not unbiased.
    IMO, this clumsy show trial will empower Trump. The DP should fire its strategists.

    That is as objective as I can get right now. I will try harder later. ;-)
     
    Ddyad, Nov 13, 2019
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    Supposedly it was really withheld in an attempt to get our allies to pitch in more. I have heard that it had a positive impact but I've not read a citation for the claim. ITMT:
    1. Did Biden have authority to withhold aid?
    2. If Trump had no authority to withhold aid, was his request for a favor without any implied threat?
     
    gorfias, Nov 13, 2019
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    Just_a_Citizen, Nov 13, 2019
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    Then why’s he want to investigate Biden? didnt Obama habe that same authority?
     
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