WATCH LIVE: Public Impeachment Hearings (Vindman/Williams)

Now Sewell just exposed that Vindman had the understanding that Giuliani was looking into the 2016 election.

So policy and investigation do not have to coincide.

 

Whomp, there it is.... Schiff takes care of the bribery thing, without props or hysterics...

 

It is really fun to watch every talking point burn down in flames so very, very, very rapidly.

 

It is foreign policy and criminal matter to investigate probable cause of foreign corruption

When did corruption involving taxpayer dollars being sent to foreign countries not become our "foreign policy"?

 

Agreed. The witnesses seem to be consistent in their testimony. Bonespurs ignored the country's interests in favor of his own interests.

 

Trump did not possess probable cause of foreign corruption. That's why he did not provide that information to a domestic investigative agency and wanted Zelensky to fabricate that probable cause.

 

The only "corruption" here was Bonespurs' self-dealing.

 

More like apparent since he refused to testify as to with whom he discussed the call and Schiff immediately shut it down.

 

Ummm... no. They were pissed that the President of the United States sets foreign policy. <--- That's a period.

 

Except for the fact that NOTHING to date has established what would be required to meet the Federal statutory requirement of what constitutes, "bribery."

If nothing changes, this will not hold standing in the Senate.

Schiff's talk is cheap. More evidence that this will likely never get to the Senate.

 

Yes he did, it's called payments to Hunter Biden.

 

Then why wasn’t this requested through proper channels? Either before or after trjmps call? How does a public announcement advance an investigation? Since none of this happened why was the aid released?

 

Jim Jordan is a tool.

"Hey, you didn't follow the chain of command!!"

Yeah. Great argument, dickbag.

 

Is that illegal?

Tell the forum what Hunter Biden did that is illegal.

 

Then why did Schiff never ask during their initial testimonies that bribery took place?

 

And Biden's own words where he bragged.

 

LOL at "Federal statutory requirement".... you in da wrong hearing, my friend... this is an impeachment hearing, not a Federal trial...

 

And your obtuse response is well noted.

 

Whats illegal about that?

 

Salary payments to a board member is probable cause for a corruption investigation? That's your argument?

 

Bragged about enforcing treasury dept restrictions on the loan guarantee. Also not illegal

 

Is it part of the record before the House?

Excellent. It should be one of their recitals in the Articles of Impeachment.

"Whereas, Jim Jordan is a dickbag; and-----"

 

As an aside, these hearing deteriorate the SECOND the regular Congress people get involved... This would go so much better if it was the first 4 people doing all the questioning..

 

And also the legitimate policy of the US at the time.

 

Dang, that's actually not a terrible argument by Stewart...... "demand" is meaningless in the larger picture, but not a bad try...