American F35 jets turn out to be invisible for Russian S400s.

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  1. Thedimon

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    But Dental and vision are the like cheapest, compared to medical. How can you afford medical and can’t afford dental or vision?

    I think you can’t grasp the point I’m making. With my insurance I can see a doctor that treats foreign heads of state. I wouldn’t pay extra for it.
    Can you easily be seen in Germany by a specialist that treats super reach people from other countries? I can. Can a German pull it off without paying extra?
    Again, example with my wife - can you be treated with true brand new state of the art equipment? Countries that have universal healthcare generally wait 7-10 years to obtain state of the art equipment due to the cost. So, in all reality, if you have a complex medical condition, you are much better off in the US than any other country in the this whole world. Obviously, you need insurance, but that’s not the point. The quality of healthcare in the United States is probably the best in the world.
     
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    One more point I’d like to make.
    @Sobo keeps telling me I’m a Slav. I was born in Ukraine, immigrated to the US around 18. I finished high school and advanced education (Masters Degree) in the US.
    Presently I have a 6 figure salary. I earn more than 6 times of what @Sobo earns. More than double of German GDP per capita. I own a house, make payments for 2 cars, have a family of 4 and my wife doesn’t work, which is our choice.
    So, how can @Sobo or you claim that Germany has a better quality of life when he relies of his dad to provide him his place to live while I am, as an immigrant, can afford all these things listed above? Nobody pays my bills, nobody gives me anything.
    Does that mean the education in the US is inferiors of that of Germany? I don’t think so.
    The United States is waaaaaaay above Germany by any measure.
     
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    In Germany you have the constitutional guarantee to have equal infrastructure, healthcare and social services no matter where you live.

    Health care is better here, simply because we have a functional social system. Something you lack.
    In your country heqlthcare depends on your income.
     
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    We do lauch rockets into space. How you think we haul our Ariane up into space? Beam her up? We use the space launch port in french guyana.

    The Internet is not owned by USA. Its just that, a net. Its owned by telecommunication corporations, take German Telekom out and internet collapses, take chinese huawei out and it collapses. Its a global venture.

    Cars can never compete with high speed rail in Germany, even so we have a street system far superior to yours, the Autobahn.

    As for critisizing my for my house. You do realize that in Germany and pretty much all of europe for millenia the oldest son is supposed to get the land, right? We are not nomadic like you.
     
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    I paid my car in cash. I do travel to places you could only dream about. You live in a plywood castle. My debt is zero. I have a monthly income of 2800 € and no debt to be paid off.

    Beside that, you dont need a general doctors letter to go to a specialist anymore in Germany. That ended like 10 years ago.

    Germany is way above USA in living standards. We also have dramatical less crime. There is a reason why Germany is considered best country in the world according BBC. USA doesnt even make it in top 10.

    P.s. 30 days paid vacation plus 5 day week plus over 11 paid national holidays.
     
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    But the quality is much better.
     
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    But you don’t have infrastructure to launch anything in space from your own territory.
    And you b!tch about US infrastructure? You sound like a looser!

    Most of the Internet is in the US.

    Bull Sh!t! I can make it faster in my car to any destination than any train. If the distance is too long I’ll just fly.

    A lifelong loser waiting for parents to die.
    Pathetic! Aren’t you ashamed of yourself? How did you dad earn his wealth? Did he wait for his daddy to die!

    Ha, my weekly income is higher than your monthly income.
    And I truly own my cars and real estate. Earned it with my own work without going to german forums and pretending to be a success. Doesn’t that suck for a German to be a loser and a Slav to be able to achieve things in life.

    Days off depend on work experience. At one of my prior jobs I had 30 days off. Those are work days. I hope you have enough brain power to understand that it’s more than the month off you were bragging about.
    At my current job I get so much respect for my skills, I took a few weeks off and not a single day was counted towards my paid time off.
    See, in capitalism you can really succeed. It you need to learn to be good at what you do. If you are a lifelong loser you will never have a chance in open market and you will alway whine about cheap trains and free sh!t as a gypsy beggar.

    Pathetic!
     
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    There is no problem seeing any specialist of your choice and the insurance will cover you all over Europe.

    I have no idea were you get the 7-10 from. The hospitals are as well equipped as in the US, with state of the art equipment.
    Germany does not have universal, it has the Bismarck system. It is worth looking into that and compare it to universal.
    I congratulate you to the success story you are and what you have accomplished, the American dream.
    I do not have a college education, I am "just" a trade Master ( German ). I accomplished the American Dream, too. My business owns its own building and land and machines, payed off and my farm payed of. I do not have a loan or mortgage or credit card debt. But both of us are rather privileged, even that we earned it, because of the hard work it took. I learned in my live, that all of that is rather fragile.
    In the US we can get the best of the best, but only, because we are privileged, the not so privileged, tough break.
     
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    You might have noticed that his views are a little bit out of line and he lags live experience, which he covers with a rather loud mouth.
    He says everything Germany is way above the rest of the world and the US. You say everything US is way above the world and Germany.
    I say both countries have their advantages and qualities and lag of qualities and disadvantages.
     
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    Mainly because after WW2.....Germany wasn't really allowed much of a military.....and basically poured everything$$$ wise in healthcare, infrastructure.

    USA ranked 15th.....but Germany needs NATO umbrella.
     
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    Which is naturally wrong. West Germany had the largest Army stationed in Europe, 480,000 soldiers and around 1000 tanks and a large air force. Even the US NATO generals considered it the best ground force stationed in Europe.
    When the Iron Curtain came down, West Germany spend its money, 2 trillion Euro, to rebuilt East Germany.
    Despite all of that, it kept the high standard of its social systems, which are over 100 years old and even increased them and improved them. And incorporated over 18 million East Germans into those systems on day 1 of unification.
     
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    All of Europe and the USA need the NATO umbrella.
    Let me remind you, it is the almighty US which invoked article 5 of NATO, asking its partners for help.
    Naturally Germany did not deny that help and send its soldiers to help the US.
     
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    We are not privileged in any way. In the US you can achieve anything you want if you are willing to work. That’s the beauty of this country - you are compensated fairly for your efforts.
    I will never agree with anyone saying anything bad about this country because here you can start from scratch without any help from parents or relatives and you will end up having a comfortable life if you are making an honest effort. I bet you know what I’m talking about first hand. :)
     
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    American spending our fortune to protect Europe from communism allowed Europe to have all the successes they have had..


    You're welcome.
     
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    I know exactly what you are talking about. If you have built your live with your own hands and brain and got wealthy, it has a special satisfaction.
    Yes I agree the US allows more room for that. Germany is stupidly over regulated, which hems the drive and very often creativity.
    I could have never been able to accomplish what I have in Germany. But still, I think it takes a special attitude.
    You have to be willing to give it all and a little bit more.
    The DNA God has accomplished nothing jet and has used family perks.
    The position he claims to have and how he got it, I put a big Questioning Mark behind it.
    Vitamin C? as in conections.
     
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    BS and mind you I pay tax in the US.
     
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    yo, we conquered the world and created your country because you protect us. We all remember how the germanic and roman armies were assisted with US airforce bombardments against the mongols.

    Dude get real.
     
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    Were it not for America the Soviets would have pushed their oron curtain to the Atlantic and the Mediterranean and would likely have taken over the entire middle east.

    The entirety of Europe and Asia would be in evil communist hands. With hundreds of millions dead and constant civil wars with likely nuclear weapons involvement.

    Yes the world without America suppressing communism would be an utter hell hole . Billions living like they do on the streets of San Francisco.
     
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    You do realize that it would not be effective to launch from German soil, simply because its too far from equator? Thought you were big in science?

    And here the 30 days paid vacation are also work days. Do you think weekend and holidays count as paid vacation days?

    You have a plsywood house where i could punch through an interior wall ad brag about that?
     
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    As if Baikonur was in tropical region. Or Russian new launch site - Vostok.

    It doesn’t matter what it’s made of. It has walls and a roof. I actually happen to like insulation in American homes more than what I’ve seen in Europe. Each exterior wall has at least 4 layers and pretty think layer of insulation itself. Also, I’ve seen plenty of older brick houses in Europe whose walls started to crack due to house settling into the ground. A wood house wouldn’t crack like that because it’s more flexible.
    Besides, you don’t even own a house.
     
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    My family owns 2 houses, several hundred hectars of farm land and a forest.

    And our house is made of stone.

    The only two guys i know who own a plywood house are you and my dog.
     
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    You don’t own any houses.
     
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    Which is some rather outstanding BS
     
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    Which is some rather outstanding BS
     
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    You think we live in tents or what?
     

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