Trump just won the 2020 election! How?..

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by PARTIZAN1, Jan 3, 2020.

  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,550
    Likes Received:
    37,923
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ya I bet Iran's leaders were surprised :)
     
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2020
    ArchStanton, Hoosier8 and Gatewood like this.
  2. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    46,848
    Likes Received:
    18,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Thatvis just MUS on your part. I am not buying your attempt at revisionist history or is that a Conwaynian "alternative fact"!!!
     
  3. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2013
    Messages:
    47,624
    Likes Received:
    48,666
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Except that -- mysteriously -- these people are the same people who did not ask Barack didley-squat in regards to all his warmongering, and simply issued him a blank-check WHILE he progressively -- Ha! -- screwed up the Middle-East. Weird, eh?
     
    Lil Mike and ButterBalls like this.
  4. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    16,798
    Likes Received:
    17,571
    Trophy Points:
    113
    President Trump will be officially impeached after the House delivers the articles to the Senate.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  5. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    46,848
    Likes Received:
    18,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I do not think that the IMPOTUS wants a long sustained war with Iran. What he wants is flash bang like his TV "reality" show. He wants to be able to brag that he stopped Iran from being a terrorist nation. Then he will build a wall around Iran and Mexico will pay for it.
     
  6. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,550
    Likes Received:
    37,923
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ya and I used to have a lot more hair. it happens quickly, before you even notice ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
  7. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,485
    Likes Received:
    25,454
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The reports that Trump are just more Fake News according to The Pelosi/Schiff's expert legal scholar.

    "If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president. If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn’t truly impeached at all. That’s because “impeachment” under the Constitution means the House sending its approved articles of to the Senate, with House managers standing up in the Senate and saying the president is impeached.
    As for the headlines we saw after the House vote saying, “TRUMP IMPEACHED,” those are a media shorthand, not a technically correct legal statement. So far, the House has voted to impeach (future tense) Trump. He isn’t impeached (past tense) until the articles go to the Senate and the House members deliver the message."
    BLOOMBERG, Trump Isn’t Impeached Until the House Tells the Senate, According to the Constitution, impeachment is a process, not a vote., By Noah Feldman, December 19, 2019.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...-delay-could-be-serious-problem-for-democrats
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  8. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,550
    Likes Received:
    37,923
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Damn, are you saying that a online forums lives in your head? After I heard about it I made out my grocery list ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
  9. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,485
    Likes Received:
    25,454
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ukraine meddled in the US election. This is not a secret.

    "Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found. A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation."
    POLITICO, PRESIDENTIAL TRANSITION, Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire,
    Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton., By KENNETH P. VOGEL and DAVID STERN 01/11/2017
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
     
    Labouroflove and ButterBalls like this.
  10. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    16,798
    Likes Received:
    17,571
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sounds like a plan. The art of war is getting it over with quickly. Gotta love those drones,
     
    Ddyad and ButterBalls like this.
  11. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2014
    Messages:
    17,082
    Likes Received:
    6,711
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Only read first and last page, so sorry if already mentioned. It's not Trump who has impeachment egg on his face, but Democrats. If anything this helped Democrats faced with more and more ?? every day they don't move their "very important" impeachment forward, making thread premise absurd.
     
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2020
  12. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2016
    Messages:
    20,241
    Likes Received:
    16,165
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, just pointing out that testing only proved it to be what it looked like.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  13. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    Messages:
    33,092
    Likes Received:
    15,284
    Trophy Points:
    113
    1) Obama abided to the 2008 agreement to bring troops home in 2011 which was a year before his re-election.
    2) Obama minions and lap dogs cheered Obama for bringing troops home from Iraq.
    3) Obama got re-elected in 2012
    4) Obama sent troops back to Iraq in 2014

    Hello! Anybody home????
     
    william kurps, Ddyad and ButterBalls like this.
  14. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,507
    Likes Received:
    13,045
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump did that at the beginning of his term. Been 3 years and no war. Sorry, can't try to use that pathetic feeble excuse. Like I said, Dems have been screaming that Trump was going to get us into a war, if not WWIII, since Trump came into office. At least Dems are consistent at one thing....crying wolf.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  15. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    9,063
    Likes Received:
    4,876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Right, and there’s no way the escalating tensions with Iran have been a result of that action, right? What made the JCPOA such a bad deal for America that Trump had to renege on our commitments?
     
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2020
  16. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2015
    Messages:
    28,121
    Likes Received:
    19,405
    Trophy Points:
    113
    FDR only responded to Pearl Harbor to win re-election.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  17. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2010
    Messages:
    16,423
    Likes Received:
    7,079
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The House is run by the majority of its members. The House rules are passed by the majority of members at the beginning of each session, including rules respecting the power of the chairmen, the policy on subpoenas and impeachment. If you can get enough votes, you can ditch Pelosi, completely alter the rules by which committees do their work and how impeachment proceedings are conducted. These are pretty much the same ones that Speaker Ryan instituted in 2014 when RP political bosses were trying to railroad Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Bengazi except the rules on impeachment which were drafted under Gingrich and Speaker Livingston when they tried to railroad Bill Clinton

    If you don't like the precedent that Ryan set on subpoena powers, you can take it up with him. If you don't like the way the House manages impeachments, you can discuss that with Gingrich and Livingston.

    I suggest you revisit your President if you want to ditch Pelosi. Because Trump is the guy who lost majority control and brought her back.
     
  18. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,485
    Likes Received:
    25,454
    Trophy Points:
    113
    House subpoenas can never be enforced against the Executive branch without judicial review. I can't imagine Trump wanting to replace Pelosi.
    Pelosi is the Precious. ;-)
     
  19. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    46,848
    Likes Received:
    18,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That is just an opinion not law. Impeachment is such a rate thing we do not have a completely settled process. The House voted to impeach the IMPOTUS and had has been impeached. That is sort of like an indictment in a Crminal case. Now thevSenate needs to decide if it wants to remove him. Of course there are not enough votes to remove him.

    Trump is still trying to short circuit the impeachment and removal process.
     
  20. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    46,848
    Likes Received:
    18,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That is nothing but Russia government propaganda and we all know that Russian intelligence agencies make up lies about who they view as enemies. Amyone who believes Putin or any Russian government agency is very likely foolish or ignorant of the facts.
     
  21. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    46,848
    Likes Received:
    18,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    As I said this guy needed to get made dead but still it is obvious that Trump did it at this time to enhance his re-election bid.
     
  22. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    46,848
    Likes Received:
    18,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Hello! Different situation diference condotions that us a fact. But of course Trump minions do not care about facts.
     
  23. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,638
    Likes Received:
    22,946
    Trophy Points:
    113

    That's not a bad question and I suppose time will tell. However going with history I don't recall Obama voters deserting him in mass, or at all, when his Iraq policy lead to the rise of ISIS and a territorial enclave for the caliphate, resulting in tens of thousands of deaths. Obama supporters almost all stuck with him in spite of the catastrophe he helped bring about.

    Same with Libya. Even Obama recognizes that as one of his biggest foreign policy mistakes but his acolytes still defend him. Just saw it today on this forum.

    So there you go.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  24. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,638
    Likes Received:
    22,946
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Actually this entire thread should be moved to the conspiracy section.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  25. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    46,848
    Likes Received:
    18,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Again that is just completely silly and so rediculous. You must not have any desire to respond honestly or intelligenty. At least that us what it appears to be the case.
     

Share This Page