Trump just won the 2020 election! How?..

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If GW Bush hadn't sent our troops over in the first place, Obama wouldn't have been able to call the Iraq war in the first place.
     
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    It's the same one that Trump used when Oblama was in office...Welcome to Nutsville..
     
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    I think the DP should do exactly what Moore wants. What could go wrong? ;-)
     
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    I don't think it has anything to do with 'moral standards', and I don't see anyone 'siding' with the general. People are wanting to know that there was a longer term strategy in place to ensure retaliation doesn't kill/impact America.
     
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    Then why was that always the end result under Obama and almost always the end result when any Dem Party politician becomes the nation's chief executive?
     
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    Kind of like Obama abiding by and taking credit for the 2011 troop withdrawal agreement from Iraq that was signed in 2008 by Bush and then after his re-election, Obama sent troops back.

    Obama sends 1,500 troops to Iraq (2014)
    https://www.cnn.com/2014/11/07/politics/obama-sends-troops-to-iraq/index.html
     
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    I know, right? And if increasingly senile Biden falls or steps aside all that are left to replace him are even greater nutters. The Dem Party is soooooooooo screwed for 2020.
     
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    Some trump haters seem to be quick to condemn this and make it seem like this general was just a ‘general’. He was a bad man... directly responsible for many american deaths. Let’s also give credit to Trump for showing restraint in past few years amidst all the hostile acts Iran has committed against US and even mocking US as if US was too weak to do anything about it. The violence against US embassy and this man continuing to plan hostile acts vs US was final straw... Iran now knows we don’t f mess around.

    Now for those who want to know more about why strike was ordered, what is long term strategy and are genuinely concerned with things escalating, count me in. Let’s not pretend though that many on the left don’t care about how bad this guy was or what he was planning, they are taking this opportunity to play politics..
     
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  9. DaveBN

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    Examples?
     
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    Study . . . history.
     
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    This is really simple.

    The demonstration at the U.S. Embassy was just that an orchestrated demonstration in military terms. It was cover for reconnaissance in force. The response was closely observed by Iranian forces looking for weakness, patterns, timing, force disposition etc.

    I have zero doubt that had our response been anemic or diplomatic round two would have been a move to overrun the Embassy.

    Our response was appropriate, we took out the command and control structure of the unit tasked for the Embassy mission.

    Good ****ing job! It speaks volumes about our intelligence in the region.

    Trump is not James Carter or Barack Obama. Enough said.
     
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    We need to be careful we don't mix these posts with the ones where the RW insists we should get out of the Middle East. We might make their heads explode.
     
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    That wouldn’t give me a point of reference for this conversation. I have to know what informs your opinion if we’re meant to have a conversation/debate/argument.
     
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    They, like Obama, mistakenly believe we can have it both ways. Guess they’re more alike than I would have expected.
     
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    He also claimed to have beaten all Islamic terrorist military groups -- which is why he had to make up stories and pooh-pooh Benghazi.
     
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    The USA needs to withdraw and bring all troops back within US borders, get out of NATO, get out of the UN, and confiscate the UN building in NYC. But first there must be punishment for Iranian elites, not the Iranian people, to set the tone prior to that withdrawal.
     
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    republicans think Trump is so bad, they won't have primaries, won't let Trump debate other republican or even democrats

    many republican states canceled straight ticket voting so Trump won't take them down with him

    if Trump thinks a war with Iran will help him win in 2020, like Bush and Iraq, he will have one

    remember not long ago Iraq and Iran were in a never ending war, America helped break them apart, now it's us in the never ending war
     
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    It's not easy to become more repulsive to your base than Republicans, but Democrat pols eventually manage to pull that off. The DP's more astute fans try to warn them. But do they listen? ;-)

    "The online survey of more than 16,000 registered voters ages 18 to 34 shows their support for Democrats over Republicans for Congress slipped by about 9 percentage points over the past two years, to 46 percent overall. And they increasingly say the Republican Party is a better steward of the economy."
    REUTERS, Exclusive: Democrats lose ground with millennials - Reuters/Ipsos poll, By Chris Kahn, POLITICS APRIL 30, 2018.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-millennials-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1I10YH
     
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    That's directly out of Wendell Wilkies book.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Trump has been impeached! It was done in Dec of 2019 by the Congress of the United States specifically the House of Representatives. Did you miss that legal Constitutional action by the
    Neither! As I stated I very highly suspect the IMPOTU's motivation to get this done at this time. This terrorist general has been around doing terrorist deeds for a long time now so he was convinced to die during the impeachment process. How convenient!
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Why are you accusing me of "siding" with a terrorist? Did you not read or did you not understand or did you just blatantly ignore the fact that I said this was done by IMPOTUS at this time for the specific purpose of getting the impeachment off the news! Did you ignore or not understand that I had written that this terrorist needed to get offed?

    Why can't you comment or argue or opine without insulting other people on this board?? Not sure who the forinication " you guys" are who you so falsely accuse of not having moral standards but why don't you try honest, intelligent, and logical comments about those with whom you disagree with?

    If you have qualms about moral standards I suggest that you address the behavior of your IMPOTUS, who I understand is DJT.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    My opinion has a much better stronger more honest more logical and better foundation that Putin's and Trump's accusation that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    So you just admitted that you have no logical, or honest, or intelligent opinion or comments about my thread so you resort the throwing the Bull Crap!
     
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    No, Bush never did that, not ever, not ever. He made the mistake of talking in front of that banner that was put there for a completely different mission and reason, and the left ran with it, despite the truth, oh wait pardon me, how foolish, the truth has never been a friend of the left. My bad.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Was Obama running for POTUS is 2014? Answer = NO!
    So the logical and honest conclusion is that Trump's action to take the spotlight off impeachment at this time less than one year away from the 2020 election has nothing to do with Obama's actions in 2014.
     

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