Former LGBTQers Testify: If You No Longer Want to Be Gay or Transgender, You Don't Have to Be

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    You might have a point if history didn't show that homosexuality has been around since at least recorded history.

    Einsteins Theory of Relativity is still considered a theory because that "one gene" hasn't been identified yet. IE: Root cause. We just have lots of anecdotal evidence that points to him being right. Same applies here. One can see the effects even if we don't know what exactly is causing those effects yet. So...are you're willing to throw out Einstein's Theory of Relativity?
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    so has rape and cannibalism and no one is claiming they are genetic either simply because they exist in history.

    And Einstein didn't run around trying to create law based on an unproven theory. Unlike your side.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your mountain of homophobic bigotry was DEBUNKED a long time ago!
     
  4. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Then prove it. Your statement is worthless without the evidence to support your claim.

    Go ahead.
     
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  5. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Well then I guess its a good thing that I've never stated that I know Gods Will. ;)

    Tell me, is it OK to "guess" what God "might" like based on a logical deduction?
     
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    And two wrong don't make a right ;) ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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  7. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Who you talking to here? You're talking to several people.
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Seems he doesn't live by the word either and judged you unfairly :) ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Which isn't what you did. So I have to quote your own words to keep you honest. Sad but predictable.

    Jesus Christ didn't make Humankind. God did. And God does not mind Homosexuality

    That wasn't a guess it was a statement of fact. Try not pretending you can rewrite what you said a page earlier.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    I quote everyone directly whom I'm talking to. Shouldn't be that hard to keep up.

    But your side has a very predictable pattern of making absolute statements with no evidence to support yourselves.

    Thank you for admitting you cannot prove your claims.
     
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    Hardly :roll:
     
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    That would also explain your superficial off the wall idea of how the bible was created too ;)
     
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  13. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    One can make a guess while stating it as fact you know. ;)

    Did you know its a guess every time the sun rises on the east and someone says along the lines of "the sun will be rising tomorrow"? No one actually knows that it will. They guess that it will because it has since we've been around and longer. Yet there is no guarantee that it will rise tomorrow in the east. It's possible that it will explode and we'll be blown to smithereens in the middle of the night.

    or

    If I state "I'm going to have a GREAT DAY TODAY!", clearly a statement of fact...yet its still a guess.

    So, just because someone states something as fact, does not mean that it is also not a guess.
     
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    Leviticus 18:22
     
  15. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Hardly what? What part of my post do you disagree with? All of it? Most of it? A certain sentence? What? SPEAK MAN! USE THEM WORDS!!! ;)
     
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    Except of course you didn't quote anyone there. Which is why I'm asking you a question. Not admitting to anything.
     
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    Post #62 covered that, READ MAN, USE THEM EYES TO READ :) ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm only going to say this once (I hope): Science disproves the Bible FOR SURE but science does not disprove God or the Supreme Being or The Creator or whatever you want to call him/she/it. I am a devout Agnostic and according to my deductions it is just as ***** to say "There is no God" as to say "There is a God". Just saying.
     
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    Ok, let's begin with your religion since that is the sole basis of your homophobic bigotry.

    Why do so many Christians include this verse in their marriage vows?

    "For wherever you go, I will go, and wherever you live, I will live; your people will be my people, and your God will be my God"

    Millions of straight Christians have used that verse and still do to this day because it expresses the Love and Devotion of one person for another under their god.

    But who was it that FIRST uttered those words?

    Her name was Ruth and she said them to her lesbian lover, Naomi!

    Was Ruth suffering from a "psychological disorder" when she expressed her love and devotion to her lover and her deity?

    Because if she was then YOUR god is 100% RESPONSIBLE for her having that "psychological disorder" since he APPROVED of her statement enough to INCLUDE it in his "Holy Word of God"!

    And before you go off on a tangent there are other examples like David and Johnathon so obviously your god had no problem at all with their "psychological disorder" since he obviously "CREATED" them that way in the first place since he is "created" the entire universe.

    Now you can throw a hissyfit about this if you like but the FOUNDATION of ALL homophobic bigotry stems from RELIGION and that single passage establishes that FACT beyond any doubt.

    EVERYTHING that you attempt to post hereafter is based upon this selfsame religious bigotry. And yes, YOU opened this door so the FACTS that are triggering Cognitive Dissonance are entirely SELF INFLICTED!

    Have fun trying to distance yourself from this IRREFUTABLE FACT but there is NOTHING you can do to refute WITHOUT trashing both your religion and your god.

    And no, no one is buying the bovine excrement that this has nothing to do with your religious beliefs. Going down that path will just negate your credibility. Religion is the ORIGIN of ALL homophobic bigotry!
     
  20. Kal'Stang

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    Off the wall? It's history man. Read up on it.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Excuse me for reading post 61 and responding to it before reading post 62. ;)
     
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    Well the way I see and Agnostic or Atheist is the must have the theory of God, Jesus and the bible to give their theology meaning :)

    Agnostics are somewhat of "Sitting the fence" folks, while the Atheist is just a wandering soul with the mystery of God gives them some purpose in life ;) ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Yes :) Yes it is, that's why I laughed at your idea how it was created(?) :)
     
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  24. ButterBalls

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    That's why the post are saved so people can scroll up and down, advance or reread older pages! It's quite remarkable the way it all works! Sort of like how some guys created the bible ;)
     
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    wrong...
    rule #11 thread creation rules:
    it does not state nor suggest that these threads must be political in nature, ergo ANY current event or latest news is acceptable...
     

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