Dismiss Notice
Thanks for being a member of our community. Please donate toward site expenses if you can.

Trump weighs restarting economy despite warnings from U.S. public health officials

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by WillReadmore, Mar 23, 2020.

PF does not allow misinformation. However, please note that posts could occasionally contain content in violation of our policies prior to our staff intervening. We urge you to seek reliable alternate sources to verify information you read in this forum.

Page 2 of 19
  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,652
    Likes Received:
    17,467
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's not the Dems' fault that since 1989 voters have turned to them to clean up the mess left behind by Republicans.
     
    Arkanis, Mar 23, 2020
    #26
    Cubed, MrTLegal, Bowerbird and 1 other person like this.
  2. Rush_is_Right

    Rush_is_Right Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2019
    Messages:
    3,873
    Likes Received:
    4,411
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Where do you think "Trump" gets his science?
     
    Rush_is_Right, Mar 23, 2020
    #27
  3. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    14,121
    Likes Received:
    9,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Natural selection. Survival of the fittest ... or the smartest.

    Those who don't take this seriously or think it doesn't apply to them are displaying selfishness combined with stupidity, a very bad combination. I don't care if those fools get sick, but I do care about their victims,
     
    Sleep Monster, Mar 23, 2020
    #28
    Quantum Nerd and Bowerbird like this.
  4. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,671
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What does Graham say ???

    Why do you assume I’m ignoring medical advice ??

    With a growing economy we can afford to treat everyone.
     
    AFM, Mar 23, 2020
    #29
  5. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,671
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It is designed to flatten the curve.
     
    AFM, Mar 23, 2020
    #30
  6. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,652
    Likes Received:
    17,467
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That's not true.

    China overcame it by confining 160 million people. There are no more new cases out there.

    And those measures were taken when there were 81,000 cases.

    US will have over 100,000 in less than three days...
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2020
    Arkanis, Mar 23, 2020
    #31
    Quantum Nerd, bx4, WillReadmore and 1 other person like this.
  7. Rush_is_Right

    Rush_is_Right Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2019
    Messages:
    3,873
    Likes Received:
    4,411
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    As said previously, nothing has changed for me, how long can this go on?
     
    Rush_is_Right, Mar 23, 2020
    #32
  8. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    14,121
    Likes Received:
    9,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I suspect you're wrong about that.

    The virus is killing people. What cure is worse than death?

    I, too, hit the trifecta in this virus' death demographic. I think the entire country should be self-isolating at this time. Look at what's happening in Italy since they shut it all down: fewer new cases and fewer deaths in the last few days. China and South Korea both turned the corner by doing the same.
     
    Sleep Monster, Mar 23, 2020
    #33
    Quantum Nerd likes this.
  9. Rush_is_Right

    Rush_is_Right Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2019
    Messages:
    3,873
    Likes Received:
    4,411
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    No surprise you believe China
     
    Rush_is_Right, Mar 23, 2020
    #34
    Dispondent likes this.
  10. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    14,121
    Likes Received:
    9,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    At least they'd be alive.

    smh ...
     
    Sleep Monster, Mar 23, 2020
    #35
  11. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    14,121
    Likes Received:
    9,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, but where this virus is concerned, we are following in their footsteps. Their numbers are just now starting to decline a tad, mostly because they locked it down. I think we should learn from that.
     
    Sleep Monster, Mar 23, 2020
    #36
    Quantum Nerd likes this.
  12. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,426
    Likes Received:
    16,544
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump has said it will depend on the disease subsiding.

    But, NOBODY in science thinks COVID is going to subside in that time period. And, Trump says he's consulting with BUSINESS people and political friends.

    Today, we're experiencing exponential growth - doubling the number of cases about every 3 days. And, medical experts are sayikng this coming week is going to be really bad.

    That's the growth rate that happened in Italy.

    We NEED to know the truth so we don't do stupid stuff.

    The NYTimes has growth rates for important countries in a chart. Please remember it uses a logrithmic scale so a straight upward sloping line is really bad news.
     
    WillReadmore, Mar 23, 2020
    #37
    Quantum Nerd, Bowerbird and Sleep Monster like this.
  13. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,848
    Likes Received:
    32,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Good Luck with That.

    I am still thinking Late-May (at the absolute earliest).

    Trump (obviously, as always) has no idea what he is talking about.

    [​IMG]
     
    Andrew Jackson, Mar 23, 2020
    #38
    Bowerbird and Sleep Monster like this.
  14. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    14,121
    Likes Received:
    9,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That isn't what's holding this up, despite the highly partisan ravings of Moscow Mitch.

    I imagine that, like politicians have always done, some of that was stuck in there to be used as bargaining chips in order to get the really important stuff accomplished, and that's probably what they're doing right now, bargaining. "I'll give you oversight on the corporate bailouts if you delete the solar power stuff." Etc.
     
    Sleep Monster, Mar 23, 2020
    #39
    Cubed and Bowerbird like this.
  15. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    14,121
    Likes Received:
    9,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He pulls it out of his big ol' butt.
     
    Sleep Monster, Mar 23, 2020
    #40
    Colombine, Quantum Nerd and Bowerbird like this.
  16. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,426
    Likes Received:
    16,544
    Trophy Points:
    113
    In what way that affects this disease are we not Italy?

    Please answer in light of the fact that our case growth rate is just as bad as it ever was in Italy.
     
    WillReadmore, Mar 23, 2020
    #41
    Cubed, Quantum Nerd, Bowerbird and 1 other person like this.
  17. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    14,121
    Likes Received:
    9,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Until we have a vaccine or the virus stops killing people.
     
    Sleep Monster, Mar 23, 2020
    #42
    Quantum Nerd and Bowerbird like this.
  18. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,652
    Likes Received:
    17,467
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Arkanis, Mar 23, 2020
    #43
    Sleep Monster and Bowerbird like this.
  19. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    93,131
    Likes Received:
    74,440
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    And you start dying

    upload_2020-3-24_13-6-6.png
     
    Bowerbird, Mar 23, 2020
    #44
    Sleep Monster and Cubed like this.
  20. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's not killing them now...
     
    Dispondent, Mar 23, 2020
    #45
  21. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,426
    Likes Received:
    16,544
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Graham:
    I dispute what Trump is saying as it counters all medical scientists on this issue.

    We do NOT give people healthcare based on how well our economy is growing.

    We give healthcare based on ability to pay, with SOME help for those in ceertain categories.

    There are millions today who do not have insurance coverage or federal/state coverage AND can't pay, especially now that they are out of a job. We still have people going bankrupt due to health care costs.

    ALSO, INS has been camping around hospitals to nab those who aren't documented. The result is that those who have COVID and aren't documented dare not get healthcare, apply for testing, etc.
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2020
    WillReadmore, Mar 23, 2020
    #46
    Quantum Nerd and Bowerbird like this.
  22. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    24,711
    Likes Received:
    3,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's simple politics; both sides do it regularly. The republicans got what they wanted in the bill and now the democrats want certain things in the bill. Both parties are a part of the same hypocrisy.
     
    gamewell45, Mar 23, 2020
    #47
  23. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,426
    Likes Received:
    16,544
    Trophy Points:
    113
    True - with possible mitigation if medical science finds an actual treatment that works.
     
    WillReadmore, Mar 23, 2020
    #48
    Sleep Monster and Bowerbird like this.
  24. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    11,363
    Likes Received:
    11,580
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    That could be a year, you think we should stay shut down all year?
     
    Louisiana75, Mar 23, 2020
    #49
  25. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    60,426
    Likes Received:
    16,544
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's not hypocrisy.

    Our congress was designed as a way for representatives to come together and represent diffrent constituencies.

    Republicans are seriously worried about the stock market, corporate entities, etc. Dems have NOT objected to aid for business that is reasonably responsible.

    Democrats want consideration for those who are wage earners without work, those who are working necessary jobs, but are allowed no sick time and whose jobs offer no insurance, and the millions of others who are caught with essentially no way to protect themselves from COVID as they run out of money for food.

    Republicans have allowed for some of that.

    Calling this debate "hypocrisy" is just not acceptable.
     
    WillReadmore, Mar 23, 2020
    #50
Page 2 of 19

Share This Page