To those of you who are wearing masks in public.

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  1. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

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    And did HE spread virus to THOSE people...putting his friends at risk?
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great for show but not so much for go?

    Dr. Michael Osterholm: ‘masks for the general public just don’t help all that much’

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    “People want to wear a mask. That’s great. But I think we’re going to show in the end that many more health care workers were infected by working with only surgical masks and not N95 [masks]. I realize and understand the shortage of N95. I get that [surgical masks] are better than nothing, but I don’t think that it offers anywhere near the protection that we need for this virus.

    “The next time you see the sunlight, peer through your room in your home and you see all that dust floating there, that’s an air assault. When you and I just talk, we create those.”

    While many people are going out in public with cloth masks, Osterholm says the perceived protection they offer just isn’t there.

    “Cloth masks, I think are at the very bottom of the list. They have little impact if any. But they’ve become basically something that people feel like they have to do or want to do it. If they want to do it, go ahead.”

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020...-general-public-just-dont-help-all-that-much/

    Data do not back cloth masks to limit COVID-19, experts say
    "Limited, indirect evidence from lab studies suggests that homemade fabric masks may capture large respiratory droplets, but there is no evidence they impede the transmission of aerosols implicated in the spread of COVID-19, according to a paper published yesterday by the National Academy of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine."
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...t-back-cloth-masks-limit-covid-19-experts-say
     
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  3. Lesh

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    Screw this clown

    Do what he suggests. Put someone in that light in silhouette and have them speak normally. You'll see all the particles they spew. Especially with every hard consonant.

    Now put a mask on them and repeat and look at the difference. I've done it and it's startling
     
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    the N95 works quite effectively against the Trump virus
     
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  5. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Credentials for "this clown". Care to show us yours?

    Michael T. Osterholm, Ph.D., MPH (born March 10, 1953) is an American infectious disease epidemiologist, regents professor, and director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.

    Dr. Osterholm is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota. From June 2018 through May 2019, he served as a Science Envoy for Health Security on behalf of the US Department of State. He is also on the Board of Regents at Luther College in Decorah, Iowa.

    He is the author of the 2017 book, Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs, in which he not only details the most pressing infectious disease threats of our day but lays out a nine-point strategy on how to address them, with preventing a global flu pandemic at the top of the list.

    In addition, Dr. Osterholm is a member of the National Academy of Medicine (NAM) and the Council of Foreign Relations. In June 2005 Dr. Osterholm was appointed by Michael Leavitt, Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), to the newly established National Science Advisory Board on Biosecurity. In July 2008, he was named to the University of Minnesota Academic Health Center’s Academy of Excellence in Health Research. In October 2008, he was appointed to the World Economic Forum Working Group on Pandemics.
    https://directory.sph.umn.edu/bio/sph-a-z/michael-osterholm
    https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Michael_Osterholm
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/about-us/cidrap-staff/michael-t-osterholm-phd-mph
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are correct but, the N95 mask is completely different from the masks worn by 99.99% of the population that choose to wear one.
     
  7. JakeStarkey

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    That stats of which are 90% better against getting the virus if both parties wear it than if they don't.
     
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    FROM the link-------------
    Or reworded it is impossible to dismiss their benefits, if total.
     
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    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html

     
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    Are you trying to argue that this is a reason not to wear a mask? Most people are wearing reuasble cloth masks.
     
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    Not those in the picture I shared! Point is, there is a time to wear the mask and a time when it is not necessary. The one blanket fits all attitude is the attitude of those that want the large centralization of power....aka globalization.
     
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    I do it mostly out of courtesy to the fearful people that believe the hype.
     
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    I certainly respect that. Different folks have different risk factors and your approach is very sensible.
     
  14. yabberefugee

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    Yeah and the CDC just changed their opinion on surface contamination. So while the elite tell us how to live....they are not exactly sure themselves. They tell you......so you do it!! I spent last Sunday at church wiping down tables and chairs that were hardly used. A little boy recently got chemical burn due to a spray they put on a grocery cart!
     
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    Scientists are not elites, and, you, yabber, are not an expert on any of this.
     
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    Unfortunately most who wear masks have no idea how to wear them effectively. I have seen so many people wearing them and constantly touching it to pull it down etc. It's actually riskier to wear a mask incorrectly than to not wear one at all.
     
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    It's kind of like the guy wearing rubber gloves and at the end of the day....pulling them off with their teeth!
     
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    I know. I am a deplorable....not one of your elites.

    Scientists conflict in their discoveries, yet they do not make the rules. The elite decide and make the rules.
     
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    Does Gen. Flynn wear a mask now that he's unmasked?
     
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    No, it is not. The risk is still limited.
     
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    Scientists in a field are better than the rest of the world not in the field.
     
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    True, but it is the globalist elite that usually decide which scientist to use. Dr. Fauci is a reknown Hillary supporter who had adulation for her during the "Benghazi lie". (Remember, "what difference does it make"!) therefore a globalist establishment sentiment.
     
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    The global elitists do not exist as you believe in your head.
     
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    Americans trust Fauci far more than Trump and those who support him.
     

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