New Deaths Are Spiking During This Reopening Phase

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    The lockdown Kool Aid drinkers.

    And where did I ever blame any of this on Obama? Obama is completely irrelevant, and he's so been for a long time
     
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    They are dying from policy decisions to postpone regular treatment to "save hospital capacity" for the onslaught of Covid patients....an onslaught which never appeared, except in New York and a handful of other urban outbreaks.
     
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    The Brit NHC system had them horribly under supplied in ventilators.
     
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  4. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Trump had weeks watching China and Europe fall yet did nothing other than say it's just a flu that will magically disappear. 100,000 deaths in two months later and many of "you" are still saying that it is just a flu that will disappear in the summer along with Trump's new claim that the figures are wrong
     
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    Perhaps you can explain away the increase in total number of deaths in April compared to the same period in previous years
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, only 3,000 healthy babies die every day by abortion. Good thing, blue-state governors kept those clinics open as an "essential" service, while throwing Covid-infected nursing home residents in with the non-infected group. Can't get any more pro-death than Democrats, at both the beginning and end of life.
     
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    Sorry, for me all Trumpsters are the same.

    Today, we're going to break the 100,000 American dead mark.

    The U.S. has the sixth worst record in the West out of 70 countries.

    But it's all other people's fault.

    Trump would start a nuclear war, you'd find a way to justify him.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    How am I supposed to know?

    But it's plain to see that whistleblowers from all walks of life including the medical profession have shown that the numbers are being rigged.
     
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    What makes you think it won't behave like any other virus, climb, peak, fall and go away?
    Please be generous in scientific detail.
     
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    That is the same kind of nitpicking that Congress used to DENY healthcare benefits to 9/11 first responders who became sick and died months and even afterwards from the toxins released by the collapse of the buildings.
     
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    The majority of the people who died were in the process of dying before the virus appeared.
     
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    100,000 is 0.03% of the population and a mere 3.4% of the people who were going to die this year anyway. Further, the majority of the deaths were from people with a high probability of death on any given day, languishing in homes, in the process of actively dying.
     
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    Our record is actually pretty good when you put it in perspective(which you never will, because your only perspective is ORANGE MAN BAD!).

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    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

    Especially when you take into account America's massive geographical and population size, our porous borders, and our large throngs of fat and unhealthy citizens.

    100,000 out of 330 million.

    Not too shabby.

    I know this will make OUTRAGE Inc. weep and screech, but, rationally and statistically speaking, that size death count is a rounding error.
     
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    Why have you posted world wide figures? It seems like you think that there are 400,000 homicides and 54,000,000 deaths every year in the US!
     
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    Yes, and Gov. Greg Abbott excluded those four counties from the current "reopen" phase, as he should, while the rest of the state moves forward to salvage the economy.

    BTW, there are zero counties which are close to full capacity in Texas. Abbott is taking preemptive steps to ensure that things stay that way.

    One of the impacted counties is in Region I (El Paso area). There are 128 Covid patients hospitalized, and 648 available hospital beds remaining.

    Facts before fear.

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    https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/0d8bdf9be927459d9cb11b9eaef6101f
     
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    You mean the team which was put together late in Obama's second term with no track record....the one who passed to the Trump administration a deficit of personal protection equipment, ventilators, etc? There is no reason to believe they'd have done a better job as was. The other poster is correct that China and the WHO are responsible for hiding the truth and the danger to the US and the world. Trump was all alone in his early quarantines and travel bans in mid to late January. Even your god-like left mocked and criticized him for protecting Americans. Now the left mocks and criticizes him for not doing enough. They are without conscience or class. It's worth repeating that Trump also pushed the nation to practice good hygiene, stay home where possible, temporary business shuttering, while also reminding us that we should get back to full economic operation as soon as practical. He is also the first to push for an economic stimulus to offset the hit to businesses. Then deferring to the states Governors to deal with local particulars. I think the President has done a very good job, as good as anyone else might have done in his shoes, and maybe better.

    On March 14, 2020, John Bolton described the changes made to the team as streamlining. He tweeted: “Claims that streamlining NSC structures impaired our nation's bio defense are false. Global health remained a top NSC priority, and its expert team was critical to effectively handling the 2018-19 Africa Ebola crisis. The angry Left just can't stop attacking, even in a crisis.” https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...-pandemic-response-team-in-2018-idUSKBN21C32M
     
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    Down at the beach I saw these trucks with the front jacked up, and the rear down low, like they were hauling a huge load of crap, it's the first time I've seen that; I don't get it.

    After two decades of observation, I noticed the beachgoers didn't leave as soon as they usually do, at around dinner time, maybe the fear of the restaurant is in them or a lockdown psychologically just hurt them and they just needed to be outside as long a possible.
     
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    No it hadn't! I've just told you that we have a fullyu equipped 4000 bed Covid hospital built that was not used (40 beds used in total). My GF works in a local hospital in a Covid ward and only half of the ITU beds were used since the pandemic began. They've now closed one of the two wards as it is no longer needed.
     
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    And at the end of the day THE VIRUS started in CHINER.. All you did was prove the futility in trying to isolate spread by limited influx from certain countries.. Only real option was total isolation from any other country and the Demo's weren't having none of that..

    Thanks for making that obvious ;)
     
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    Are wards ventilators?

    Yes, the epidemic has peaked and is rescinding
     
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    The Spanish Flu lasted for 4 years and killed hundreds of thousands in the second wave. Should countries prepare for a second wave or just pretend it will "climb, peak, fall and go away"
     
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    So for this majority, how many died days earlier than expected, weeks earlier than expected, months earlier than expected, years earlier than expected?
     
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    What difference does it make if it can't be turned against President Trump?
     
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    An anecdote about 1918 is not a rigorous scientific discussion
     
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    Amazingly, U.S. deaths from cancer, kidney failure, and heart disease have decreased so far this year. Have a heart attack along with asymptomatic Covid infection? Death certificate stamped, "Covid death".

    Through mid-April, there have been about 38,000 more deaths from all causes this year, than the same period last year, per CDC data.
     

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