New Deaths Are Spiking During This Reopening Phase

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    No amount of feeble EXCUSES can wash the BLOOD of 100,000 dead Americans from the hands of your Covidiot-in-Chief who was given EVERYTHING he NEEDED to respond to this pandemic and SAVE those lives.
     
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    Nursing homes are really health spas.
    My bad.
     
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    LOL! Classic. :applause:
     
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    Our private system is really kicking ass in heart disease, cancer, renal failure etc.
    Look how much we've improved in one year !!
     
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    Are wards ventilators? What's that supposed to mean? Do you actually know what a ventilator and a ward is? Every bed in a Covid ward has a ventilator
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Congress denied that healthcare because allowing it to pass would ultimately provide documentary evidence that 911 involved nuclear events. Best keep that secret as best they can.

    RIP Matt Tartaglia.
     
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    /rolling eyes!

    9/11 conspiracy bovine excrement! :eek:
     
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    I don't obey commands from you. You don't even know what a ventilator is or what a Covid ICU ward is.
     
  9. squidward

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    And that's why so many died in your country without a ventilator
     
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    You made the claim with nothing to back it up. No surprise there but then you clearly don't care that old folks are dying months if not years before their expected deaths. After all, they are just a burden on the country, is that right?
     
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    You don't discuss science in a scientific manner either
     
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    For people whose families can afford in-home nursing or hospice care, the life-expectancy numbers for our frail and elderly are probably very similar to nursing homes.
     

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    Run quickly, and never engage the actual points. Hide as best you can.
     
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    The healthy line up for vacations in nursing homes
     
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    Yes, when all the numbers for 2020 are tallied and compared to 2019 and prior years, we'll see how many excess heart, kidney, and cancer patients were cured by Covid.
     
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    Trump should use what you just wrote in his speeches.

    It'll console the families of the victims and make Trump look good.
     
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    You're clueless. Every patient needing a ventilator was put on a ventilator. Which bit of "a 4000 bed Covid purpose built hospital was not used" did you not understand? Which bit of me telling you that my GF Covid ward was only half occupied did you not understand?
     
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    I guess your comparison won't sound so stupid when cancer, kidney failure and heart disease will be contagious.
     
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    We've been through this before! The majority of people that have died from the virus in old folks homes are not in nursing homes. Do you have a convenient short term memory? Let me remind you of the first old folks home that made the headlines after many of their folks died from the virus caught on a cruise. You think that people who are close to death are capable of going on months long cruises?
     
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    It came on line too late
     
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    Are we discussing Covid deaths or Trump?
     
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    My GF worked in a Covid ward from the start of the pandemic and the ward was never fully occupied
     
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    You can close your eyes and chant your delusions. But life will continue to march forward without you.
     
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    There is zero reason for heart, kidney, and cancer deaths to decrease, except that many of those are counting as Covid deaths. There has been no breakthrough in treatment or cures for those causes of deaths, but they have decreased this year.

    Excess deaths will be the best measure of Covid deaths, and we obviously won't have the 2020 numbers until we're well into 2021 and the counting clock starts over at zero with a new year of mortality data.

    Anyone who says that there are 100,000 "excess" deaths from Covid is just making stuff up. Tens of thousands of people have died from chronic heart and kidney diseases this year who coincidentally had Covid as a comorbidity, even if that viral infection was with mild symptoms or asymptomatic. Those are being counted as "Covid deaths".
     
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    We have cruise ships dry docked all over this country doubling as nursing homes.
    How silly of me to forget
     

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