BET founder Robert Johnson calls for $14 trillion of reparations for slavery

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  1. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Some of the best schools in my area are public schools. Well funded, kids ready to learn and in the suburbs. That's the problem. Vouchers take the kids from the inner city who have the most motivated parents, the smartest kids, the ones without disabilities or behavior problems and the ones that have transportation to get to these schools. What does that leave for the public inner city schools with a shaky tax base and increased pressure to show progress or lose funding?
     
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    yep, I would say any private school that accepts vouchers has to let anyone in, they can not be selective, or they lose that tax payer funding
     
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    When remedies are tried, like school vouchers, the liberal base of the Democrat party, who are well endorsed by teacher unions fight tooth and nail to kill such funding. Even though the majority of minorities would greatly benefit from such programs.
    It went so far that even in sports the losers got trophy's . Failure was no option.
    I'm not big believer that you can force people to like each other but "respect for each others rights" can be somewhat regulated. All students of, state supported school districts, should not be deprived of supplies, text books, facilities and qualified teachers and staff no matter their economic standing. All education money can go into a state fund and distributed accordingly.

    School choice should be a tool available to parents and school districts.

    Trade schools should be established in every district as needed. (College is not for all)

    Teachers should be given their power back to discipline unruly students and boards set up in each school to arbitrate disputes.

    Children should not be pushed through school if they are failing but efforts to evaluate the situation as a remedy.

    School districts should not be automatically punished if their schools are failing but should be evaluated and corrective action taken.

    Communities and parents need to step up and participate in their childs education and school[/QUOTE]

    The conservatives deny this.....[/QUOTE]
     
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    We have some good schools and some that barely cut the mustard last year. We also had vouchers and Gifted schools. This year I understand they will no longer have Gifted schools. The voucher program is also out the window according to my wife but I haven't checked on that yet. The problem with our school system is a shortage of qualified teachers for all the schools. Very few teachers volunteer for the minority schools. Who's fault is that? Just about every school begs for school supplies for their kids from the private sector. Here again funding could be made law that xx amount of dollars for each child and school is on a par basis. We have a lot of fighting and disruption by the students in our schools, and now, they are talking about eliminating officers from our schools. Insanity.
     
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    Call it $400 grand a head if we divided it per what the last census counted as black people. Of course it would never not out that way. Any reparations bill would only give a portion of the money directly to citizens. The bulk would be put into various "funds" and given to various "causes" as a way for the DNC to make sure it would stay under their control. Every leftist riot-for-hire group would sign up for a grant, "foundations" like the ones the Obamas and the Clintons run would take their piece, of course the big name race hustlers like Shaprton and Kapernick would walk away with tens of millions personally, and without a doubt Planned Parenthood would somehow manage to suck down a hundred mill or so because they always seem to be able to get their fingers in any gov handout.
     
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    Some questions:

    Why don't all public schools get the same amount of funding (as they do in most countries with public education)?

    Why aren't 'gifted' schools continuing? Gifted schools are the ultimate equality, because the ONLY thing that gets you in is merit. Not wealth, status, colour, parental education levels, or creed - just merit. They are one of the best ideas ever conceived in education, and offer a lifeline out of poverty for poor kids who have the motivation to do well.

    Why is there a lot of fighting and disruption in schools?

    What the hell is an 'officer' in a school?
     
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    14 TRILLION in reparations?

    So what they are saying is.......

    Make all blacks millionaires.....and all whites....Poor White Trash ?

    It might happen. We're talking about it aren't we?
     
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    Not all minorities (Asian and Indian Americans almost always do better than whites, for example), but you make a very important point about the fundamental error of enabling failure.

    YES. To the power of ten .. parents (and communities) need to step the hell up.
     
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    Well no, it could never happen. There's no possible way of determining who is eligible for the money.
     
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    Most schools are funded by local taxes. If a city or county doesn't have a high per capita tax base compared to wealthy city's or counties then many times the schools suffer. Less money for supplies, teacher salaries, building maintenance etc.

    Gifted schools are under fire because many feel the discriminate against those who do not qualify.

    Teachers and school administrators in many school districts have their hands tied when comes to discipline, expulsion or remedial punishment for infractions. Many teachers fear their students. Schools do all they can to avoid lawsuits or bad publicity. Students who feel they are not getting respect are more than likely to be involved in altercations with their peers or adults.

    Not all schools have roaming school officers but they became part of the fabric after the school shootings a few years back.
     
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    It's OK to be "poor white trash". We fish a lot, we hunt a lot, we drink and dance a lot, we drive our pick-up's a lot and ride our RAV's when we can. We work hard and normally make more money than those sissy college kids. We love our country and our flag but mostly we love our women, children and our mama's and respect our dad's. We tend to like to live in towns were houses have some distance between them and you can get breakfast at a local café and know everybody.
     
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    1) Sorry, yes .. I'd forgotten that public education in America is not nationalised. Should be standardised across the nation.

    2) WTF? That's insane! Gifted schools are so important precisely because they DON'T discriminate! They don't discriminate in any way .. not money, race, religion, zipcode, privilege, colour, parental education, history, or anything else. They take kids purely on academic merit. It means any child can get a place in a school which helps them do better in life. All they have to do is apply themselves and aim high, and with parental support (time and effort is all the parents need to give) they can secure a place in these schools. There's one in NYC in which 40% of students are from underprivileged families. Think about that!

    3) Yes, teachers are limited thusly everywhere these days.

    4) Still don't know what you mean by 'roaming officer'. If you mean some form of police, why is that necessary? What the hell is going on in that country, that your kids need to be policed?
     
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    Are we squeezing this in after we pay for the economic recovery, dealing with the future debt crisis, universal healthcare, free daycare, ending homelessness, helping illegals, student debt relief, free college, and fixing up social security?
     
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    The US has had some amazing gifted public high schools. Here is a break down of a few in New York City.

    The Fine Nine: The city’s elite high schools

    But they are under fire precisely because they only admit based on merit. Entrance is by standardized test scores only, regardless of income.

    Here are the demographics of one of those schools:
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    So that's why they are under fire.
     
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    So what ISN'T discrimination, to these ****ing geniuses? Standardised tests are the fairest possible mode of entry. There is literally nothing fairer. If academic merit .. the only measure dependent on the 'character of the man' alone, and which is completely colour, culture, and wealth blind isn't good enough, then they are flat our liars. They are not at all interested in equality, or anything resembling equality. They are, in fact, racists.

    PS I love that that wheel shows only 25% whites though - that really rubs BLM types noses in their idiotic theories about white privilege ... LOLs.
     
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    Honestly, the Asians are kicking ass in standardized testing, so they deserve those slots. I've no interest in whites or any other group getting more seats based on non academic criteria. They should go to the best and brightest, an increasingly unpopular notion in Woke America.
     
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    That means they want to return to race-based privileges. In this case, one race gets 'free entry', while all others must work for it.

    Not only is that despicable, but it's completely pointless in the most objectionable way. If the kid doesn't have the work ethic fundamental to any academic success .. the fancy school will do nothing for them. They will have totally wasted the spot given to them, while a kid who could have torqued that opportunity into lifelong financial security (or something even greater ... like a cure for cancer), missed out.
     
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    There have already been ample studies to that effect. The US has provided a lot of data to look at in that regard. Everyone is worse off under the current race based system, especially the people it was designed to help.
     
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    Dr. King's dream was warped by those with an agenda, and they hope to continue warping it with 'reparations', which will create 21st century animosities and future conflict.
     
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