BET founder Robert Johnson calls for $14 trillion of reparations for slavery

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  1. Polydectes

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    It's not possible to pay reparations for slavery. We can't send money back in time.
     
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    what Republicans offer them is there a responsible government not a mommy. Republicans are for them the ability to make their own wealth. Skinheads and neo-nazis probably typically vote for Democrats. Seeing as they are socialists and far more interested in identitarian politics the shoe fits.
    I don't buy this. It's really rather racist. It isn't just black people rioting it's mostly white people. And this behavior is unacceptable. You don't get to lash out commit violence against other people. just a national guard gets called out and people get shot don't cry. They could have just as easily behaved themselves.
    No, I chalked it up to the fact that 72% black families are broken. Slavery didn't make the men leave their families. Right after the Civil Rights movement black families stayed together.
     
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    Families staying together is the core reason for poverty and crime in poorer communities.
     
  4. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Apparently that reality as well as many other aspects of reality is bigotry.

    that's eurocentric white supremacy heteronormative and a few other meaningless words people use to justify their hedonism
     
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    I never said it was! The window to pay reparations if we had wanted to got closed in the 19th century maybe 1899. A female slave aged 30 in 1865 would have been 64 in 1899. So if we did an annual reparation payment until death that former slave would probably have collected for an average of 4-5 years based on average life span for a woman if I recall correctly the NY Life insurance mortality table.
     
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    I don't understand.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Republicans offer tax cuts for the wealthy and cuts in social services. An excellent incentive for blacks to vote for them.

    Why did the leaders of racist organizations support Trump?

    The "lashing out, similar to rioters and looters" that you errantly go off on was Ped's complaint about Moriah's comment, which was total hyperbole. Read his response.

    So you believe that poverty in the black community is the fault of black culture and the social safety net? Institutional racism has nothing to do with it. The social sciences and historians disagree. Who should I believe?
     
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    I think you are trying to define reparations are tributes. A tribute is an act or a gifts that shows friendship admiration or respect.

    The topic was reparations and it appears this discussion has moved beyond or or outside of that.
     
  9. Polydectes

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    Independence from mommy government. Already said that.
    Don't care.
    I don't know why there is such prevalent poverty in black culture. I just know that Democrats have done squat about it in the half century they have been ruling the worst cities.

    Voting for failures or supporters of the status quo is moronic.

    Republicans steal less of my money through taxes. So a failure that costs me more is the greater of two evils.
     
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    That's one definition yes.

    Fair enough.
     
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    Your post displays all the ignorance of history that I need to see. It's even willful ignorance. Rose colored glasses kind of ignorance. Thanks for proving my point.


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    Have a nice day. Take care and stay safe.
     
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    Whatever.
     
  14. edna kawabata

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    It is good that a Kekistani can admit he doesn't understand black culture after giving his opinion of it. I am sure they do not understand your culture; there is disagreement in your own people.

    As a good Kekistani he thinks Republicans may have the answers, although they have provided none, just as long as he doesn't have to contribute.
     
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    I wasn't here, my family wasn't here, my wife wasn't here and her family wasn't here. The majority of American slaves were already slaves in other countries like Africa, Puerto Rico and Hispanol. Many slaves were owned by whites and blacks. The first slave owner was black from Missouri. Over 30,000 black slaves in Louisiana were owned by black land lords. Many blacks sold themselves to white slave owners so that they could avoid being shipped to Liberia. Many blacks and whites were indentured servants and given their freedom after serving 7 years. Many were given 50 acres of land and mules after they were free. So what unconstitutional law are we going to try and use to do this reparation. What records do we have, and of who, that deserve reparations. That reparation crap didn't work to well with the Indians, who really do deserve just compensation.
     
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    Reparations is the mental shackle used to keep the slaves on the plantation. DEMS have learned that mental shackles work just as well, if not better, than metal ones.
     
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    Who would you vote for if your a product a broken home and your a single mother and your support comes the welfare office? Your medical for you and your children is paid for. Your Section 8 housing is paid by the government. Your children for the most part receive a lousy free education but they get free lunch. The family gets food stamps and all of this compliments of the party. Poverty is the shackles that bind.
     
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    I was talking about self centered man baby culture that wants a mommy not a government. If you want to attribute that to black people be my guest but don't pin your bigotry on me.

    I'm not aware a culture is absolute agreement with every one all the time. I'm in a relationship with a man that I love and I don't agree with him on everything all the time.

    I don't look to Government for answers I don't want government to be my mommy. I absolutely don't want to contribute to it being other people's mommy. If I'm going to take care of man babies I sould at least get to have the fun of making them.

    I vote for the bastard that steals less if my money. At the moment that is the Republicans. Want my vote steal less money. Easy.
     
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    Good questions Edna. Where do you get your information? What is wealth? Should we confiscate all corporations and put them in the hands of the government to run? If not, should we tax them and all business , and if so how much?

    If millions of more jobs are created in the economy and more and more people get off the welfare rolls and no longer require food stamps doesn't it make sense to cut back on those expenses? Where do think the money comes from to run these programs?

    Would you consider Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Author: Michael Harriot, Stokley Carmichael racist? They all supported Democrat Presidents. Does that make those Presidents racist? They don't have control over who will support them.

    There is institutional racism. No doubt. It's not as bad as it use to be. There is some progress on that front. I know it's been slow. The same arguments I hear today are the same arguments I heard in the 60's. The difference today is there are less ears to hear. If you notice, you have two, mainly white groups dominating the conversation. Even though blacks are mainly Democrat they really are not the leadership. Trust me, those old white guards are not going away quitely. Clinton and Gingrich were the last two people who worked together to get things done for America. It's been war ever since. More would be done if more blacks and Hispanic's and other minorities could embrace the Republican party. The Democrat party has sold it's soul to socialism unfortunately.
     
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    Please tell me why a dirt poor Vietnamese immigrant going to the same crappy public school as other minorities often rises to be doctors, lawyers and such? Look at your own culture.
     
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    Wow, a whole paragraph of BS excuses. Everyone has hurdles to get over, and a lot of the ones you posted are pretty weak. Try again.
     
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    There is no reason or rationale why I should give my money to someone who was not a victim of a non-crime that I did not commit.
     
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    So to tackle poverty, the Kekistani way, would be to remove the social safety net and ignore institutional racism and see what happens....brilliant!


    The Republican party would improve if more minorities felt welcomed. Thanks to the stable genius in chief head of the party he continues to alienate them.

    The Democrats sold their soul to socialism? A hyperbolic right-winger statement if I ever heard one. Partisan with no insight.

    Anecdotal evidence is not real evidence of anything.

    For his lack of insight, hindsight, foresight and empathy the Social Darwinism award goes to Josh!
     
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    Cause their mama's don't let them grow up to be cowboys.
     
  25. Moriah

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    Some Vietnamese immigrants grow up to be criminals/gangbangers. Some "other minorities" grow up to be "doctors, lawyers and such".
    We never know what a child is going to be when they grow up.
     

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