I can't be friends with political opponents

Which is irrelevant to this discussion. Unless you believe that AntiFa is not anti-Nazi.
Is that your position?

"The essence of fascism is totalitarianism and a useful definition of totalitarianism might be the following: all aspects of human life are subject to the intervention of the state which reserves the right to provide final judgments, both value judgments and practical judgments, and all the various areas of human expression. No aspect of human behavior is immune to the ultimate definition and control of the state. Mussolini's famous slogan is in order here: Everything for the state, nothing against the state, no one outside the state.'"
S. J. Woolf Editor, "The Nature of Fascism," Random House NY 1968p. 11.

 

"Antifa (/ænˈtiːfə, ˈæntiˌfɑː/)[1] is an anti-fascist movement in the United States[2][3][4][5] comprising a diverse array of predominantly left-wing autonomous groups that aim to achieve their objectives through the use of direct action rather than through policy reform..."

This is nuts, do you know what anti means??

 

Love the crazy...

"The U.S. Centers for Disease Control said Tuesday that the death toll in America from coronavirus has reached 105,157. The agency says the total number of confirmed COVID-19 cases nationwide is now at 1,802,470 with 14,790 new cases reported over the past 24 hours.

The World Health Organization reported that total confirmed cases worldwide have surpassed 6.1 million, with 376,320 deaths in 216 countries and territories reported as of this afternoon. The Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center, whose data has been widely used and tends to track higher than the CDC and WHO numbers, puts the global case total at 6,339,005, with 378,266 global deaths.



The U.S.’ total confirmed cases per the CDC are now more than the world’s next five most-infected countries combined — in order of cases that includes Brazil (514,849), which has grown the most to have the most cases outside the U.S.; Europe’s most infected country Russia (423,741); the UK (276,336); Spain (240,010); and Italy (233,197)."
https://deadline.com/feature/coronavirus-deaths-united-states-1202874446/

Something is fake as hell.

But it ain't the virus.

Related Story

 

Due in large part to Physicians being pressure to put down
on their Death certificates that it's ASSUMED to be from
Corona-19.Where are all the 1.2 Million deaths reported annually
from Heart Disease and Cancer.Kind of just too convenient to
state " assumed " to be from Corona-19. Especially when we have
honest physicians who studied the numbers { Mortality rates }.
In no way was this Virus as c/o confirmed patients had a mortality
rate anywhere approaching 3-4 %.Maybe in Big Blue state cities where
padding death numbers is as easy as humble pie.
Where weeks ago a bombshell Corona -19 virus study was sampled
in Santa Clara,Calif. The study was left shocked.Establishing the hard
reality that far more people have the virus than expected or being confirmed.
Basically in order to trust in the World Health Organizations estimate that
3-4 persons infected per 100 will die,that would necessity more than just
4 % of actually Corona Virus people infected.Based on the sampling of
actual Santa Clara residents tested being somewhere between 2.8 - 4 %
actually having the infection.I think it was broken down to around 10,ooo
that were sampled.Where 1 in 1,ooo or .o1 had the virus and died.
Almost the identical Mortalioty rate for Seasonal flu.

 

When first arriving on the American Scene Antifa allowed it's
group to be Interviewed by Hamas.
The Antifites explaining their group were Marxist.That was there
overall cause and objective.
Fascism is known for violence.If men were angels there would
be no need for Violence or those who pretend otherwise.

 

Antifa is bottom up, not top down. Some are marxist, most are not.

Which you ought to know if you are going to talk about them. Are you trolling or is it something else??

Antifa ain't fascist.

 

Another flat out dopey leftist LIE.Antifa is Funded.They have
benefactors.As if George Soros { who helped educate Failed
Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum at his Rockford Leadership
Institute along with other radicals like Obama Green Czar Van Jones,
Jodie Evans of Code Pink and the notoriously evil appearing
Linda Sarsour }.
BlackLivesMatter is no different from the other Soros funded
efforts as in Media Matters,MoveOn.org and the Tides Foundation.
That Tides Foundation alone is a Who's who of Big league
Progressives who demand Change according to their Doctrine.

 

And I am certain you can back that up with rock solid proof.

Nope, no chance of a crazy conspiracy theory here!

 

I think it's harder now than it used to be because politics are more polarized. It's no exaggeration to say that Trump sows a new breed of division though, and he has a tendency to show no empathy or basic decency. To his opponents, he's a monster - in his policies, his lack of decorum, and his methods. To people who agree with him, he's rough but does what they want so they'll look past it. Somebody who likes Trump and is secure about it probably would just shrug if a friend insulted Trump, unless it got pervasive and annoying. There's people I respect who are republicans and while I can't wrap my head around how they like Trump, I can still respect them and get along with them. Possibly need to avoid politics as a topic in extreme cases. Maybe you know Trump is a monster but support him because of his policies, and that makes it difficult to handle him being criticized because it brings up something you're uncomfortable about: That your guy is not a good guy.

 

I have had to turn away from some former friends as well as go neutral with three family members.

A person cannot support Trump and be a true American.

 

A person cannot declare Trump supporters to be other-than-true-Americans and be a true American.

You're really saying Trump supporters have no riright to vote!

Bigotry takes many forms.

 

I said they can't be friends. You lie when you say I said they can't vote. Shame.

 

LOL! Tyvm for posting that Big Whopper.
Here is another whopper:

POLICE: "The police are a constituted body of persons empowered by a state, with the aim to enforce the law, to ensure the safety, health and possessions of citizens, and to prevent crime and civil disorder.[1][2]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police

 

You said they aren't true Americans. Only true Americans can vote, correct?

 

Ddyad, I wish all that were in fact true.

 

In fact, AntiFa is pro-fascist.

"But there were great similarities between a certain type of left wing intellectual and fascist intellectuals..." "Nature of Fascism," S. J. Woolf Editor, "The Nature of Fascism," Random House NY 1968, p. 249.

 

That statement is adolescently silly.

 

We are talking about Trumpian right wing fascism of today.

 

I assume you are referring to the definition of "police".
Yes, I too wish it was true, but it has never been true. Alas

 

In fact, Trump stands in opposition to the massive USG secret police/spy agency fascist structure, the military industrial complex, the institutional systemic racist systems that have been imposed on ethnic minorities in America by DP government for over a century. Trump also stands against the RP establishment which has ignored or collaborated in DP fascist schemes to loot and oppress the American people.

“Both of them have sold us out, both parties have sold us out. Both parties are racist, and the Democratic Party is more racist than the Republican Party.” Malcom X, By Any Means Necessary, Malcom X, Betty Shabazz and Pathfinder Press, 1992, P 46.

Trump is responsible for the first positive substantive change for the poor and ethnic minorities in America since Eisenhower used the Insurrection Act to send paratroopers into Arkansas to integrate the schools.

 

Your quote doesn't support your assertion, and it doesn't negate what was covered earlier about them not seeking power.

Kelly Ann Conway "It's alt-reality."

Reporter "That's called lying."

 

But that's in the real world.

 

Fake Science = Fake News.
Surely you know by now that the CDC is not a credible source.

"During a task force meeting Wednesday, a heated discussion broke out between Deborah Birx, the physician who oversees the administration’s coronavirus response, and Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC’s antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics — such as mortality rate and case count — by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it. Two senior administration officials said the discussion was not heated.
“There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust,” Birx said, according to two of the people."
WASHINGTON POST, Politics, As deaths mount, Trump tries to convince Americans it’s safe to inch back to normal, By Josh Dawsey, Ashley Parker, Philip Rucker and Yasmeen Abutaleb, May 9, 2020.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...024fe6-9149-11ea-a9c0-73b93422d691_story.html

 

The assertion that AntiFa is anti-fascist is an example of The Big Lie.
You know a fascist/Nazi tactic for fooling naive true believers.
The acolytes of totalitarianism have had a remarkable tendency to switch from red to brown to red on a coin flip.

"Sorel raised the question of the distinctions between right and left. Lehman questioned whether - at least on the French scene, which was in many ways exemplary - an intellectual at any given moment might not have associated with an extreme left-wing or an extreme right-wing movement, had the circumstances been satisfactory." S. J. Woolf, "The Nature of Fascism, "p. 248.

 

In fact, Birx was right and the CDC was wrong. That is why Birx is a more credible source than the CDC. That is how the credibility thingy works.

"An examination of the CDC’s testing kit by the Food and Drug Administration found no issues with its design but faulted the agency’s manufacturing practices in explaining the delay in distribution.

“I was just saddened and embarrassed when this test didn’t work out,” James Le Duc, a virologist and former CDC official who now is director of the Galveston National Laboratory in Texas, told the Post. “It’s really a terrible black mark on the CDC, and the impact was devastating to the country.”"
THE HILL, Coronavirus test delay came after contamination at CDC lab: report, BY TAL AXELROD, 04/18/20.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...ay-came-after-contamination-at-cdc-lab-report

No one still believes the CDC.
Those who pretend to still believe the CDC do not believe the CDC.