Republicans defending Confederate symbols?

As a conservative. I think the statues and the monuments serve as a reminder for how this nation had to overcome the bias, bigotry, and horror that was slavery in this nation. For liberals today, tearing down these monuments is more a wish to whitewash over their own history from which folks should NEVER allow them to do. Yes, liberals, you were, are, and so far continue to demonstrate all of the traits and political desires that created the plantation in the first place. We need these monuments to remember who these folks actually are so that we can remember what not to do.

 

It will be very hard to get big money out of politics. But, I agree it is something we need to work toward.

 

OK. Then let's erect some monuments/statues of enslaved people. That would be a better way to remind people of the ugliness of slavery than to erect monuments/statues to the military generals who fought to keep slavery.
How about: Harriet Tubman, Fredrick Douglass, Sojourner Truth?

 

Depends on the message you wish to send. Are you suggesting that the deeds of Harriet, or Fred deserve our derision? That seems conflicted at best. The left are desperate to white wash over their past. We shouldn't let them.

 

Not to the Confederate States it was the Confederate States and still remains it was the Confederate States and they were invaded by a foreign country and had to defend themselves against the utter destruction that invading army was reaping upon them. Slavery was LEGAL in the UNITED STATES.

 

It was settled by Congress in 1907, it was a Civil War between the States not a rebellion. And it only had to be recognized by the people being governed they did not have to get the approval of other countries.

 

Nope, he did not, even if you do. You have nothing from Lincoln about sub-human blacks.

History is very clear that AL went about systematically undermining slavery then crashed it in 1865.

You can not get around history, Bluesguy.

 

In terms of legality, yeah, they did.

 

Nope as Congress said for the historical record. But if that is your position should those advocating California sessesion be arrested for inciting a rebellion?

 

The GOP now is the Democratic Party of then. The reactionaries just changed their party suits....

 

That they had to be cared for by the white man and I believe they are sub-human every bit as much as you.

 

Texas v White is the law of the land (186 on secession.

It is not sessesion but secession.

 

Please learn how to write and used words. Blacks are as human as you or me. Did your love run off with a black dude?

 

As I said I think they are as less human as you do we have an agreement here what are you arguing about?

 

Hardly. IT's just that the democratic party has morphed into the socialist/fascists party in this country. That leaves lots of traditional liberals out there hanging.

 

You are saying it's a rebellion to secede so yes or no should we arrest those advocating this rebellion and Texas is not California.
And it's 1896....

 

Pretty ironic given your grammar... Just sayin...

 

DEM fallacious excuse making.

 

Nixon’s southern strategy says otherwise.

 

See post 269

 

Nope, my friend, I don't think like that. Blacks are no less sub-human than you.

 

I am so glad I am here for you.

Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede. In 1850 the state of Texas received $10,000,000 in federal government bonds in settlement of boundary claims.

 

So are the people proposing secession in California traitors and should they be charged with soliciting rebellion? LIncoln said the same thing when he invaded the Confederacy. You're here for yourself, would suggest you concentrate your efforts there where they are most needed.

 

Ah no it didn't. His southern strategy was not about race. In fact he did more FOR Civil Rights and Voting Rights and equal treatement and opportunity than more than most if not all Presidents before or since. What exactly do you believe was this nafarious Southern Strategy?

The myth of Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy’
"Nixon had an excellent record on civil rights. He supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. He was an avid champion of the desegregation of public schools. The progressive columnist Tom Wicker wrote in the New York Times, “There’s no doubt about it — the Nixon administration accomplished more in 1970 to desegregate Southern school systems than had been done in the 16 previous years or probably since. There’s no doubt either that it was Richard Nixon personally who conceived and led the administration’s desegregation effort.”

Upon his taking office in 1969, Nixon also put into effect America’s first affirmative action program. Dubbed the Philadelphia Plan, it imposed racial goals and timetables on the building trade unions, first in Philadelphia and then elsewhere. Now, would a man seeking to build an electoral base of Deep South white supremacists actually promote the first program to legally discriminate in favor of blacks? This is absurd.

Nixon barely campaigned in the Deep South. His strategy, as outlined by Kevin Phillips in his classic work, “The Emerging Republican Majority,” was to target the Sunbelt, the vast swath of territory stretching from Florida to Nixon’s native California. This included what Phillips terms the Outer or Peripheral South.

Nixon recognized the South was changing. It was becoming more industrialized, with many northerners moving to the Sunbelt. Nixon’s focus, Phillips writes, was on the non-racist, upwardly-mobile, largely urban voters of the Outer or Peripheral South. Nixon won these voters, and he lost the Deep South, which went to Democratic segregationist George Wallace."
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/402754-the-myth-of-nixons-southern-strategy

It has been nothing but a straw man used by the Democrats to try and excuse themselves of their deplorable and despicable record on Civil Rights and Voting Rights and Suffrage throughout the history of the country.

 

Less human? Wow.

Only YOU have said that