Republicans defending Confederate symbols?

Sorry tablet typing typo

As I said I think they aren't any as less human as you do we have an agreement here what are you arguing about?

 

See above it was a tablet typing typo. Or as I said in #261

"I believe they are sub-human every bit as much as you."

How much do you believe Jake thinks they are sub-human?

 

Dinesh D'Souza?

Really? That's what you base your racism on ?

 

I did, see #274

 

The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South", particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[4] In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), a national civil rights organization, for exploiting racial polarization to win elections and ignoring the black vote.[13][14]

 

Way to walk it back lol

 

I will give you one hour to apologize for your post before I report it.

 

Mehlman had nothing for which to apologize and spoke for himself and Goldwater was smeared by the Democrats over his own record on civil rights and has been ever since. Goldwater led a group of business leaders in Phoenix where he was a small businessman to end segretation in the downtown stores and was one of the first store owners to desegregate his own store. As Governor of AZ he was the first Governor to by executive order desegregate the State National Guard, before Truman did so for the federal military. HIs object to the Civil Rights bill that was passed was the constitutionality of government forcing a private business to with someone even if the reason was about race . He deplored the idea a business would, as evidenced by his history, but did not think the federal government had the constitutional authority to force it.

 

My previous proves the point it was a typo. How much do you think Jake thinks blacks are subhuman, because it's the same as me.

 

NOT ENOUGH

True enough - those ex-slaves who could hightailed it to northern large cities to find work. They were otherwise treated badly if they remain in the south.

Still, and I insist upon the fact, that their present situation as regards comparative income-levels show that historically they continued to earn less than white counterparts. And whyzat?

Because of their historical situation by which those who arrived simply fostered families that participated in the economy in comparatively low-income jobs. Yes, it is less drastic a situation for some American blacks who do indeed obtain a post-secondary degree. But not nearly enough. Neither for the blacks nor Hispanics.

Europe responded to this same phenomenon (that happened to a large part of its population post-WW2) by making a post-graduate education very inexpensive. Today it rarely costs more than an annual inscription fee of around 1000€ plus room-'n-board.

Which is why more of the lesser paid family-members of any European society today are, indeed, seeking post-graduate degrees. Needless to say, we should be doing the same in the US at state-schools of post-graduate education, but we aren't - a post-graduate degree in a state-school in the US costs a total of $14K.

Which is proving to be a substantial barrier to obtaining the higher degree-level for lower-income families. And, of course, this should not be happening in a country where Age Change has occurred - we have very largely left the Industrial Age and have entered the Information Age ...

 

Horse $&@

 

IF THEY SURVIVE

Try comparative "ignorance" as an answer?

From here: The new North-South divide: public higher education - excerpt:

What we as a nation should be doing is funding Tertiary-level education and no state should be allowed to refuse adherence from any particular segment of the population. Frankly speaking, the US should be making the responsibility for all Tertiary-level Graduations a common objective of all American states. And it should be funding that objective rather than wasting enormous expenditures on the DoD. (Which as an enrollment incitement does offer our kids to pay for their post-graduate schooling - and, of course, if they survive military service!)

There is NO WORLD WAR ANYWHERE and America must get back-to-basics ...

 

PUTTING TERTIARY EDUCATION COSTS INTO PERSPECTIVE!

Correction:

And, from here;

So, do the numbers - if each student costs on average $14K a year, then all post-secondary schooling for the US in 2017 ($16.8M) costs around ... $238 000 000 000 annually.

Or about half the total DoD-budget ...

 

THE BIG MOOLAH

Yes, the GOP went for suits, top-hats and plenty of the Big Moolah towards the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th centuries.

The "Dems" kept to cleaning the floors - and nothing much has changed except there are more people earning the Big-Moolah. That is, Income Disparity in America is the worst of any developed economy on earth* ...

*Don't wanna believe that? See chart here from the OECD.

 

What the constitutions says is called the Equal Protection Clause and is located in Section 1 of the 14th Amendment (1866).

No law guarantees anyone a level of income. But, apparently, nothing has changed since 1868 - the whites get richer and the far too many non-whites do not. That's one helluva Big Difference for a nation that has become the Major Economy of the World.

I suggest that Gerrymandering bridges the political right to determine the majority preference of any legislature, state or national by manipulating the voting count. I think also that the relationship between the Electoral Vote count by a state manipulates the value of the popular-vote. Because it gives the states total presidential vote-value (which often has very little relation to its population) to the winner.

Which is why the US must drop the Electoral-College manipulation of the vote, and go back to its origins. That is, all votes are reported by the states to Congress ,which then counts them nationally and announces the winner amongst ALL THE CANDIDATES for national election to a national legislature (HofR, Senate) or executive office (PotUS).

With modern voting machines, this tabulation can be done automatically and under professional scrutiny at all stages - because the machines should be all linked via a secured Internet to a central computer in DC. Only then will we have a vote-count that is devoid of any human manipulation and reports the Truly Elected political representation in Congress and/or the Presidency.

 

California has not and will not secede. As long as the would-be secessionists do no overt act of treason, they can yammer all the want.

 

You have said secession was rebellion and the citizens who did were traitors. There are people signing petitions holding rally's in California for secession. I believe there are people in some other states doing so. Should they be charged with conspiracy to commit treason, in-sighting rebellion? Arrested as traitors. If not explain why not. It's only treason if it's a Southern state that wants to leave the Union?

 

I live in California. I'm not aware of any petition signing or rallies for California to seceed from the United States.

 

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them; then neither persons nor property will be safe." (Frederick Douglass)

 

Um...errr....who draws that line, and where?

As a Vietnam veteran, I share my fellow vets' visceral distaste for that cannon-straddling queen of treason. So finally it turns to a statue-subject whom I honestly would oppose with all my heart. But I wouldn't deface it. I wouldn't smelt it down into plowshares or whatever that commie scheme said to do.

Fonda herself, however, should be glad every day our tolerance and self-restraint remains intact.

 

Then you surely must support the call to tear down Yale over its history of backing slavery.

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2001/12/12/yale-slavery-report-questioned-by-experts/

 

PRAY TELL

And where, pray tell, do you find a "commie scheme" in the US?

Given that communism has been dead since the 1980s when the USSR came apart, it's interesting to note that you have found it somewhere.

Or, are you just babbling-into-a-blog because you have nothing better to do than babble-into-a-blog?

What you mean by "commie scheme" ostensibly is any political expression that is to the left of the Rabid-Right in America including those of us in the Center?

About centrists in America, from here (March 2019): Governing -

I could not agree more. The country has been driven to extremes of the Right and the Left - which is NEVER a good sign in politics. For better or for worse, the US is and ever has been a uniquely two-party system where voting majorities bounce their way from Left to Right and Right to Left ...

PS: Mostly because it has allowed the Right to manipulate the voting process by means of age-old Gerrymandering (since 1812!) and the voting misrepresentation of the popular-vote by the unnecessary Electoral College.

 

I just love it when a single phrase touches off such heartfelt leftist apologists.

P.S. right back. If you disagree with our present political system, in this case wish to remove the Electoral College, you would first find far more support if you were to assure the conservatives that typical Democrat ballot-stuffing will not be done. We know this will never happen. This would defy all expectations and to suggest it would cause union rats and other wastrels to recoil in horror and approbation.

Then comes the from-the-grass-roots-up effort to get enough signatures to lawfully hold a Constitutional Convention. Each state must do this separately and 39 must approve for it to come BACK as a national ballot proposition. You are absolutely free to pursue this lawful course.

Gerrymandering was first used by the first political party, the Democrats. Are you complaining their trend caught on? Where's your sense of comity?

 

THE END OF THE AGRICULTURAL AGE IN AMERICA

Removal of Confederate monuments article here:

That's why!

At the time of prewar 1860, the steam-engine Farm Tractor had enter into farming-history by displacing physical workers by means of a soil-turning device that was far more effective than black slaves imported from Africa. The slaves were needed not for planting but for picking the crop. They would be inevitably displaced from that job as well by a tractor-machine.

For all the massacring of human-beings that occurred, the Civil War was pathetically useless to defend southern farm-plantations. The country had already entered the Industrial Age.The Industrial Revolution - now also known as the First Industrial Revolution - was the transition to new manufacturing processes in Europe and the United States, during the period sometime between 1820 and 1840*.

A cotton-picker harvester was first patented in 1850 in the US, but it took quite a while longer for them to become used widely - mostly in the 20th century.

By the time the Civil War occurred (for no good reason) the US was well on its way into the Industrial Age. Such age-changes come and go with increasing frequency. (Guess who is exiting the Industrial Age and entering the Information Age?)

Age change with human-beings is always a rocky-road. We humans don't like being upset by the alterations to our lifestyle and especially how we work to pursue it ...

*From here:

 

So you're cool with bulldozing racist Yale, right?