Trump plans to send federal law enforcement personnel to Democratic-led U.S. cities

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  1. Egoboy

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    It's going to be a hoot to watch the heads explode when President Biden decides to move gas-masked federal law officers onto the grounds of Mar-A-Lago in 2021 to protect federal property...
     
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    Nothing dubious about it. Federal law enforcement has the duty to enforce federal laws on federal property.

    As for a winning strategy-Trump/Republicans win when they advocate for law and order.

    Dems have put themselves in the position of supporting lawlessness and violence-and they did it reflexively because Trump pointed out the obvious problems.
     
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    Thats a silly opinion piece.

    Dems have been ignoring the war like conditions in their cities for years, and the recent riots, shootings, etc highlight this.

    Dems have been unable to stop these obvious problems, and the cherry on top is that Trump does not even have to send in federal law enforcement-he just has to offer to do it.

    Its a politically shrewd move, and its all happening while Joe remains in his bunker.
     
  4. Egoboy

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    And wisely so... because I'm sure Wilmington is next on the Trump Tyranny Tour 2020....

    It's a politically desperate move... made because he's starting to listen to his own pollsters...

    It's a spot on opinion piece... This mirrors exactly what a Syrian leader did... Congrats for supporting that...
     
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    He has no legal authority to send federal officials into these cities for local law enforcement without their permission. Period.
     
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    They can pound sand the President has a duty and obligation to protect federal buildings and assets and personnel. The locals would be advised to accept the help and work with those federal law enforcement to protect their own citizens and property.
     
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    Even left leaning PBS says you are wrong, see the link below.

    Can you produce any evidence that local law enforcement must give permission for federal law enforcement to enforce federal laws on federal property. I'd posit that you can not.

    Is it legal for federal forces to be used like this?
    Yes, to a certain extent. Federal authorities can enforce federal laws on federal property, like the courthouse in downtown Portland.
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/analysis-can-trump-send-armed-federal-agents-to-u-s-city-streets
     
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    He isn't just talking about protecting federal property.
     
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    Assad is a dictator.

    Trump's actions are entirely legal and appropriate.
     
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    I guess it's a good thing he's not doing that then, isn't it? He's sending them there to enforce federal laws.
     
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    "White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany cited a provision of federal law, 40 U.S. Code 1315, that says the secretary of Homeland Security "shall protect the buildings, grounds and property that are owned, occupied, or secured by the federal government … and the persons on the property.""
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/portland-protests-federal-agents-white-house-dhs-legality/
     
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    Fake argument. He's talking about more than just protecting federal property or making arrests for federal crimes.

    He's openly talked about sending federal forces in for law enforcement because he thinks locals aren't doing a good enough job. That's outright unconstitutional. He tried to get the military to do the same thing on the border and they told him to "pound sand," as you guys are fond of saying.

    I don't care about PBS, and you are using it for a straw man anyway.

    How about some non-left sources? Would you be willing to accept non-left sources? https://www.foxnews.com/media/judge-napolitano-federal-agents-portland-constitution
     
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    And talking about doing more than that. Which is part of the OP. He's openly stated that he wants to send them in because locals are not doing a good enough job enforcing their own laws. That's not legal justification. Then again, Trump cares for the Constitution about as much as he cares for half his children, so no surprise.
     
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    He's not sending in troops stop with the canard. This is federal LAW ENFORCEMENT.
     
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    Because the last time he tried to send in troops instead, and they resisted his demands that they act as local law enforcement. Now he has to find people who are more compliant with his questionable orders. So he's gone with DHS.
     
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    Absolutely... thank you!!

    And if they stayed to that mandate, there probably wouldn't be this illegality...

    They haven't... and likely won't in the other cities as well....

    https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unmarked-vehicles-portland-protesters/
     
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    They aren't doing a good enough job-do you disagree?

    The military was deployed to the border to aid in construction of the wall.
     
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    Operation Legend. Wonderfully named after a young boy who lost his life due to gun violence which was and is being egged on by the democrats and the defunding of police. Trump isn’t messing around, I think this is a great move by him and something which is needed to dishearten the mob. I wish we had something similar in the UK to go after the perpetrators of knife crime.
     
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    I'm sure your willing to prove this...
     
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    Whether they are or not does not change the Constitution. Can you address what I actually said?

    Yes. But Trump wanted them there for law enforcement. Which would have been illegal. They resisted his illegal demands.
     
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    Federal law enforcement reduces gang violence, etc. The only restriction is that the feds can not compel local law enforcement to enforce federal laws, though in practice that isn't typically needed. The left has used this loophole for sanctuary cities. Bill Barr just spoke about this today.

    https://www.gao.gov/products/ggd-96-150

    Trump sent the military to the border to aid in logistics and support. That is entirely legal.

    Its also irrelevant to this thread because they are the military, not federal law enforcement.
     
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    Another dodge. They can't send in federal troops to act as local law enforcement. See previously provided video.

    The Constitutional concerns are similar, and again (not that I expect you to do anything but run away from this fact again) Trump wanted the military to go to the border as LAW ENFORCEMENT which was ILLEGAL. The military decided INSTEAD to go and provide LOGISTICAL SUPPORT which UNLIKE TRUMP'S DESIRES were LEGAL.Get it now?
     
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    Technically Operation "LeGend". They have already made their first arrest, of a St. Louis gang banger on the federal charges of being in possession of illicit drugs and a firearm.

    I wish the UK had something similar too. Did you know that the decline in the UK over the last century is greatly lamented by American conservatives?

    https://www.kmbc.com/article/presid...ation-legend-to-chicago-albuquerque/33395432#
     
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