Can hate win an election?

I hope the dems take the Senate so that we can get some things done and start to repair the damage trump and his repub lapdogs have done to our country.
I hope that Congress doesn't waste any time on trump and lets local law enforcement handle his assorted criminal activities and they let the chips fall where they may. I'm tired of trump, and I hope the majority of Americans are too.

 

I can pretty well assume that any person preoccupied with hate and anger is having a hard time with honesty, at least within themselves.
When you engage yourself with certain mindsets, you put yourself in an extremely tenuous and risky position.
Have you ever heard the old term, "Dancing with the devil"? That's where the left is general is at right now- some more than others.
The hostility increases as the engagement takes them over.
The chips on their shoulders becomes more unstable.
Their insecurity begins to dominate perception.
The ability to communicate deteriorates into nothing beyond mindless arguing.
Of course, none of this makes sense to such a person.

 

I feel we need to decrease immigration, but not end it. Immigrants bring fresh energy into the country, along with fresh ideas. They're helpful to America in many ways.

What do you mean by "assimilate"?

 

Well we have hundreds of thousands of hungry Americans looking for freedom hooked on meth alcohol and other drugs, not to mention stuck on being violent because they think they are victims. That can bring energy, America’s are the best source of this. Just DEREGULATE !

 

I suspect treating them with more compassion, understanding & respect, along with everyone else around you & me, would go further toward eliminating the causes of violence than deregulation would. I would suggest such an approach would eliminate most of the despair, unhappiness, & division we all have to deal with, faster than any other approach. And, it's so simple. . .anyone can do it.

 

Ppl like this don’t want compassion they want freedom. Ever look at the architecture of a old American city? It’s beautiful it back when we had less regulations and more freedom .. less dependents. Democrats are killing us. Leave us alone deregulate

 

Give us an example?

 

XploreR, I'm hoping you watched the Tucker Carlson show last night, he did the same thing again, demonstrating the false reporting of CNN. But that's not the topic here.

In my rather long and extensive experience, one thing I'm absolutely convinced of is that you cannot help those who aren't willing to help themselves. Helping people sometimes does a lot of harm. That doesn't sound logical of the face of it, but quite often it convinces people that someone else will always come along to pay their bill or bail them out, so they don't need to worry about it. This is fueling dependence, and many are eager to accept- and at the same time will resent the fact they become dependent on you; come to believe that the fact help was given is proof it was owed- and also feel that it was overdue and inadequate. They don't say thanks or feel and gratitude, and it does not raise their faith in their fellow man.

I was involved in a consortium of builders who constructed 100 new brick homes in 180 days, for low-income tenants. Rent was based on ability to pay, average was less than 10% what the properties would normally bring. Before the last house was completed, there were many that had been damaged so severely and abusively they required major renovation. This was government managed, with unbelievable incompetence, that refused to hold the tenants doing the damage accountable. Believe me, it was like a horror story. It subsidized people, gave them nice places to live- and they trashed them. I toured 10 vacant homes at the job completion. 9 of the 10 needed serious repair. One tenant was evicted for selling drugs from the house. When he left, he put a garden hose in the window and turned on the water first. Another put several hundred holes in the sheet rock with a baseball bat. A third... they left feces floating in the kitchen sink, and had urinated down all the heating vents.

However, when a person is determined to stand on their own feet, determined to become responsible for themselves- there is a lot we can do that helps. We shouldn't do it for them, but we can smooth the path, grease the skids so to speak. The catch is- if they use that to avoid effort, it's detrimental. If they use that to accelerate their growth then we have genuinely helped. That is why programs created and managed by government bureaucracy tend to botch the job; they lack the ability to recognize who is making genuine effort and who is going through the motions to get the free help. Now the personal aspects of respect shown to them can be helpful- we just have to be careful about feeling sorry for those who won't help themselves. You and I might be able to make that call well- but government never will.

Nothing makes a person more secure than being able to stand on their own feet, be dependent on nobody- that is freedom. I love to see people gain that, and I know it is good for the nation when they do. Many times the best thing we can do to help is to get out of the way; stop being a hindrance. Lots of people have what it takes and will put it to work if they can see a clear path to go down.

 

No one, surely, has more first-hand experience with those things you speak of, than yourself.

 

* Spiritgide's translation of respectful: people who aren't too dumb or morally deficient to agree with him.

 

2016: Hell yeah hate can win!

 

Congress does that EVERY YEAR, when they pass a budget.

If I didn't know any better, I would think you were talking about regulation-cancelling Trump, and anti-choice Republicans.

And which side of that line between good & evil do you fall on? You didn't specify; was that just an oversight?

 

We are not. Partisans are. I am not part of a political party, so I don't get conditioned to hate other Americans because they belong to a different political party.

 

So, brown people are a problem.

 

I doubt valedictorian is the problem.
Likely the receiver of the communication is the problem.

 

I heartily agree, & believe that, should Dems become the Majority Party in the Senate, they will be very pro-active & productive (esp. in relation to recent precedent). I actually opined specifically to one of your hopes-- but regarding Nancy Pelosi & the House-- in the thread If Biden Wins, He Should Pardon Donald Trump (in this Forum-- Political Opinions/Beliefs) a week & a half ago (post #46, pg. 2).

Even if they have control of both chambers of Congress, & the White House, Democrats will have their hands full, for a while, as you suggested. And while their expected remedial actions are the true reward of voters who put them in office, the chagrin this will, nonetheless, bring to certain disingenuous Republican prigs, who believe only their own views have any value, is just a bonus.

 

You must feel a strong sense of depravity if the only enemy you can find in your life are Democrats. Democrats care about individual human rights, open opportunity for all, education for all, & the elimination of glass ceilings for all--regardless of race, color, language, sexual preference, gender, or religious beliefs. Most of those regulations you seem to detest were enacted to protect someone from something dangerous or threatening. Before you decide to delete them you should take a closer look to see why they were enacted in the first place. Removing them might "free" you up in one way, but endanger you or your loved ones in another.

 

If you read better, you would know better.

 

No. People who don't walk in the door and talk about the orange turd, call conservatives deplorables, basically start with a chip on their shoulder that says their arrogance rules and they respect nobody.
Those are not respectful people. I can discuss anything with a reasonable person, no matter how far we are apart- but that has to start with civility and respect. That may not last, depending on who you show yourself to be, but that is your choice. I suggest trying it sometime, you might be pleasantly surprised.

 

How much of the obvious has to be explained to you? And why don't you see it in the first place?
Questions only you can answer.

 

Austin, Texas? Moscow Southwest? Occasionally good for music.

 

Anybody but Hillary had a nice ring to it. Like that guy banging the big gong in the old Dragnet closing credits.

Wakey-wakey, America. You've been had by the media which got called the fakes they are and will never let Trump get a break because of it. You've been lied to by the Dems, but hey, it's an election year and triple-think and nuclear-powered cynicism definitely go with the territory, right?

Liberals expect to be lied to, because Dems do that as a reflex gesture, like tapping a kneecap to see the leg jump, and Dem voters let these rabid liars get away with it because Trump murders children he personally caught at the border, where he also put up a fence to prevent just that... and we're all haters for asking.

Wakey-wakey. There are lunatics trying to bash down the front door. Even if it costs a day's wage---go vote.

 

Immigration yes .. they don’t assimilate

 

Cool story

 

Democrats the party of slavery Jim Crow modern day urban slave plantations, pro abortion? Care about ppl? Do I look stupid?