House moves to impeach Trump after deadly Capitol riot

Why this naivete about disregarding the President is not just any politician but the commander in chief. Does he speak with authority? If he tells you to fight or lose your nation, doyou think that's an invitation to a hippie sit in?

You sure as hell don't have muchn of a friggin clue about YOUR own government, YOUR constitutin nor the rule of law that they define. its seems you must once again slink away with the usual bogus excuse.

 

When Joe reduces the COVID numbers (after somebody finally takes it seriously), things should get back to relative normal by late summer or so... My kid just got accepted at his first choice college, so nobody wants him to get outta here and experience life more than his mom and I...

Joe will do what the science dictates to return to that state ASAP..... We are still in the Trump tunnel, but we can finally see a dim light in the distance...

 

And this has nothing to do with the military nor was he ordering troops to attack the White House nor did he order anyone else. The FBI is turning up more and more evidence this all planned in advanced and the persons who engage in the violence and insurrection came equipped and prepared to do so. If you are going to post your statements about what I do and do not know they you state specifically where I failed, where I am wrong about my Constitution and my Government. I won't hold my breath.
And again if we are now the charge any politician who ever said we must fight for what we believe in we, my country not you, are going to need a LOT more courts and judges and jails. And I take it every politician in YOUR country who tells their constituents to fight for what they believe in are thrown in jail as inciting violence and insurrection, am I right?

 

Joe is not going to lower COVID numbers the vaccines that is Trumps task forces Operation Warp Speed led by Pence and his administration respecting and believing in our private free market incredible private businesses to create the vaccines in record time that those on the left including Biden scoffed at and claimed Trump was lying when he said he would accomplish it. And if Biden doesn't know what needs to be done already and we have to wait until he is told "by the science" then he has no business running this thing, it will be just as much a failure as his failed recovery in 2009.

 

#DonnyTwoPeach

 

“Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election,” Trump, a Republican, tweeted on Dec. 20. “Big protest in DC on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!”

They turned out in the thousands and heard the president urge them to march on the Capitol building to express their anger at the voting process and to pressure their elected officials to reject the results.

Trump summoned supporters to "wild" protest, and told them to fight. They did | Reuters

 

you're mistaking a Magic 8 Ball for a crystal ball

 

He has already got the Trump people to adopt his ideas on distribution and he hasn't been sworn in yet.

 

If Trump and his minions didn't cause so many extra deaths AND have a plan to get the vaccines out to the population, his (completely normal) rush to get a vaccine would have been more respected...

 

'amazing. Yes part of the planning was at least three gop congress people giving private tours to "suspicious" groups. Be careful what you wish for, the FBI is also going to find out who was participating in the planning and coordination and other active participation. I also suspect that they will uncover who knew what and when they knew it.

For instance, we know both Sr. and Jr. have been retweeting all kinds of far right garbage from which one can reasonably infer they have ready access to the very same sites and pages that the low life MAGA auxillery fascist white national racist Qanon nutbars inhabit. If Trump et. al knew this (what no security briefings on national security?) before the "protest", bubby, hes a traitor.

As for this idiocy that this is a precedent to impeach politicians willy nilly, I suppose In your mind, inciting an attack to disrupt the legal transfer of power with LIES and utter bullshit, is somehow not a high bar. Once again trying to justify the present with paranoid visions of the future. Why its almost like the nation will be utterly destroyed by the socialist chinese puppet Biden and the evil mean nasty dems.

But continue to throw out lame whataboutery and appeals to consequence.

Appeal to consequences, also known as argumentum ad consequentiam (Latin for "argument to the consequence"), is an argument that concludes a hypothesis (typically a belief) to be either true or false based on whether the premise leads to desirable or undesirable consequences.[1] This is based on an appeal to emotion and is a type of informal fallacy, since the desirability of a premise's consequence does not make the premise true. Moreover, in categorizing consequences as either desirable or undesirable, such arguments inherently contain subjective points of view.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
STILL waiting for PROOF that there was voter fraud and the elections was stolen.....(as Trump claimed to fire up his rabble...)

SHOW EXACTLY WHERE in the post of mine you quoted where the hypocrisy is...
(another example of righties claiming something that never happened like election fraud )….and UNABLE to provide any proof at all that voter fraud took place

 

I hope they do, I hope they arrest everyone who participated in the planning and execution. I have been saying that for over three years while the Democrats have been supporting and encouraging it. I'm the one who has been consistent here.

And I have seen for three years the retweeting and MSM news shows and printing repeating all kinds of far left garbage. I have seen the riots that were at Trump inauguration I have seen the Dems starting their impeachments the day after he was sworn in and before the end of the month 50 of them signing a letter to remove him based on their far left garbage. Every month there was the next call for impeachment. The Dems have turned impeachment into a political weapon and we can expect LOTS of Presidents in the future getting impeached.

Funny how in the impeachment today the Democrats were unable to supply any evidence Trump told people to go and storm the capital and engaged in violence and insurrection. Not one witness to that, not one affidavit. And remind me again what was Trumps legal teams defense to the charges?

This is PURE politics and what each side engages in IS the subject.

McConnell has said there is no way a fair trial can be held before Trump leaves office and you can't try people who are no longer THE President.

 

Distribution to the states which the Federal Government controls is not the issue, states have vacciens going past due only having given 25%-30% of what is in their hands flooding them with more will only exacerbate that and he has no authority over state and local government where the failures have been. And they are all about to make a big adjustment to fix that which has nothing to do with Biden. Bidens not going to go out and sweep into every county be able to snap his fingers and tell them what they should be doing.

 

When he was campaigning he presented HIS experts and HIS scientist and how they were advising him and coming up with their plan based on "the science" And now he's about to get into office and talking about how he is going to talk to people about what to do

 

I think you're confused.
The vaccines can be stored for a long time.

Once a POU receives a thermal shipper with our vaccine, they have three options for storage:

• - Ultra-low-temperature freezers, which are commercially available and can extend shelf life for up to six months.
• - The Pfizer thermal shippers, in which doses will arrive, that can be used as temporary storage units by refilling with dry ice every five days for up to 30 days of storage.
• - Refrigeration units that are commonly available in hospitals. The vaccine can be stored for five days at refrigerated 2-8°C conditions.

I think you are confused about people not giving vaccines because they can't find the correct age group that day.

But back to Biden.


Vaccine distribution: Trump administration reverses course and adopts part of Biden plan - CNNPolitics

 

Deaths projected to be at over 2,500,000 at this point.............. And the government has done it's plan, the states have the vaccines where they wanted them delivered. They can't get out what they have. Biden's plan is to just dump more on them that subject them to expiration before it can be used. But it appears all the states are going to open the restrictions on who can get it and speed things up. Biden as President would not be flying to every county to tell them what to do and there is no evidence Washington bureaucrats shipped to every county would do any better. And lets not forget he would be vaccinating black people first the group most likely to refuse and they are having to vaccinate black pastors to convince all the black people to get vaccinated. Let's drop the racial slant and base it on age and preexisting and open it up to everyone that basis.

 

Get up to speed
The New York Times

We Came All This Way to Let Vaccines Go Bad in the Freezer?

.... Untold numbers of vaccine doses will expire before they can be injected into American arms............

....Of the 14 million vaccine doses that have been produced and delivered to hospitals and health departments across the country, just an estimated three million people have been vaccinated. The rest of the lifesaving doses, presumably, remain stored in deep freezers — where several million of them could well expire before they can be put to use.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/opinion/coronavirus-vaccines-expiring.html

So explain to me how Biden's plan to just dump more does on them fix things?

 

And, even a WEEK LATER, you still haven't managed to get past the "Whataboutism?

Wow.:smh:

Also, there is NO Specific Constitutional Provision that expressly prohibits trying any Impeached Federal Official after they leave office.

Thus, you are 100% WRONG with the following claim:

"you can't try people who are no longer THE President"

^Where do you even come across that sort of MISINFORMATION?

You, obviously, haven't researched this issue very thoroughly.
No biggy, just saying.

Because, of course, Everybody KNOWS (and who has actually researched the matter is aware)--That The Constitution does NOT expressly prevent such an Impeachment:

But this may not be an obstacle to starting the process. The Constitution is silent on the question of whether a Senate trial can be held after a president has left office. The 1876 impeachment of War Secretary William Belknap for graft after he left office may serve as precedent.

https://theconversation.com/impeach...ally-risky-act-heres-how-it-could-work-152965

Also, the Clause that refers to the Chief Justice has (absolutely) nothing to do with the TIMELINE of the Impeachment.

It only lays out the duties of the Chief Justuce (in circumstances where the President is in trial).

Glad to clear that up for you.

 

Have a read of this Team USA. Stan Grant is a very thoughtful Aussie journalist....smart bloke.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-14/trump-impeachment-america-us-president-democracy/13057050

 

Bullshit. Lots of people here condemned the rioters and looters as criminals. They didn't represent the vast majority protesters of just like the regular gullible redhat trumpists who didn't try to attack the capitol but still believed his bullshit.

Yep his was a controversial win and there were a lot of enraged "puxxies" that wanted to be heard. You know the majority of voters who felt that their voice was taken away? I don't recall them invading the capital and chanting Hang Donald Trump but I could be wrong. That you keep up this idiotic whataboutism and dont address the facts at hand is to be expected. Truth hurts.

Its funny how trumpists refuse to see the evidence when its staring them in the face and plastered just about everywhere including in every major capital on the planet.

Given that this was a crime in plain sight, your whine about witneses and refuse to understand demogoguery and its effects. Nah, you guys are totally oblivious and therefore invulnerable to the effects of this multi disciplined area of of human communications research and education. But you know way more about that than me because you are american and you know how americans hear and know stuff.

Got it in one!! Impeachment is a political act. PURELY POLITICAL. But that doesn't mean it isn't meaninful, relevant and condemns the impeached to all of history.

Correct which is why Nancy won't send the article over until some time after the 20th.
This is a good thing, because every day we are learning more and more about the depth and depravity of this insurrection and trump's pathetic attempt to overturn an election and have the transfer of his power stopped.

You must have donated big time to stop the steal.

 

Your fake outrage is the hypocrisy.

MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH worse went on for months and the left, to put it lightly, had a different reaction then.

Unless you can show me where you had a similar reaction to all the rioting, looting, destruction, violence, etc that went on for months....then your reaction is the hypocrisy (now I'm sure you'll try desperately to say it's different this time to argue that you're not being hypocritical, it will be pathetic, I'll laugh and move on).

 

Much worse than an attempt to stop the transfer of power after a free and fair election? Yep desperately try to cling to the lame whataboutery that its not as bad a what amounted to a few race riots, something America has regular experienced, but perhaps you weren't paying attention.

And of course you'll laugh because you have bought into the bullshit lock stock and barrel. Or maybe even worse you are a member of the Maga auxillary, who doesn't give a crap about trump's Big Lie, but has totalitarian fascist wet dreams.

 

Russia, Russia , russia...

 

So you are another who cant simply quote anything.