Explain to a non-American why it makes sense to change Congress every two years!

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How often should congress be changed?

  1. Every two years

  2. Every four years

  3. LESS than every two years

  4. MORE than every four years

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  1. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Lunch Bucket Joe" Biden has never held a real job either.
     
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  2. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

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    This is a touchy process for all sides, a process we call redistricting. It's based on population and divides a state, for example, into congressional districts of relatively equal population regardless of geographic size. The 2020 census, once completed, will be the basis for the next redistricting. Several links available here....

    https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=congressional redistricting
     
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  3. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

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    Would that person please cite the names of one-term Congressmen in the last 10 years on either side? Let's clear away the underbrush on that part, first. I may find Amelia Earhart before anyone can dredge up 10 such people.

    The ones who SAY they are Mr. Smith Goes to Washington --- Bright Eyed Sincerity in every syllable --- get there and do their raucous freshman-antics thing (with varying success, just ask Impeach That Mother******) and two years later get reelected because they meant what they said and somehow by the grace of newbie luck got something done --- so the folks back home screw up and sent sent them back.

    If every candidate was honest, nobody would run for reelection. After two years they're tainted. But reelect them? That's two-thirds of the way toward toward six, which is the same as one single Senate term.

    That's also enough time to decide if that third and final House term is warranted, any more than reelecting a senator who after twelve years and two terms cannot be dynamited out of office.
     
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  4. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ,,,and then campaigning "elect me and I'll fix X" never mind that he's been a US Senator for 40 years and the VP, and he promised to "fix X," and never "fixed" it. But elect him this time, and he will <wink-wink> fix it this time.
     
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    Back in the founding, being a member of Congress paid dirt wages and interfered with their personal lives. Later on they paid the members a lot more money, and gave them sweet benefits packages. But today..... changing it the a four year term would take a lot of money out of politics. I'm for it actually.

    I'm for 12 years and out. Once you accumulate 12 years in the US House of Reps, or the US Senate, or any combination of the two, and you are out. The same goes for serving as a staff member for members of Congress.
     
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    @EyesWideOpen - this is for you!
     
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  7. chris155au

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    So what should the terms be for the House and the Senate and should there be term limits?
     
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  8. quiller

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    Hey there, let me dangle my own material for imminent deletion, thankyewverymuchly.

    Say, Eyes? Post #603. Any comment?
     
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  9. quiller

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    Since so many of registered voters don't vote, the sarcastic answer is not the appropriate one but nevertheless too tempting to pass up.

    We get precisely what we deserve. Until we change it to something better, we deserve that too.

    Trouble is, nothing better's come along. So my answer to you is, change nothing.
     
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    I would prefer a parliament or a house about 4 times its size with remote voting. I'd be fine with 3 years. I am fine with 2 years. The size of our congressional districts are a bigger problem than the terms of the representatives IMHO.
     
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    We already have term limits for the house and senate - they last 2 and 6 years, respectively.
    At the end of those terms, their constituents have the opportunity to remove them.
     
  12. chris155au

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    2 & 6 years are terms, not term limits.
     
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    Their terms have a limit.
    At the end of those terms, their constituents have the opportunity to remove them.
     
  14. EyesWideOpen

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    The question was: "So explain to me why it makes sense to change Congress every two years!"

    I explained it. People would not have wanted to sacrifice four years to serve in the House of Reps, because they had lives of their own and businesses to attend. This is why our Constitution decided on two year terms. What's left to comprehend?
     
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    The term, 'term limit' means limited to a certain number of terms. The Presidency has a term limit of 2 terms.
     
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    If a politician's constituents don't like his job performance, they end his term. If they do, they extend it. There's no need for an artificial limit.
     
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    Do you feel that it was the founders' intention for people to become career politicians and hang around Congress for one thousand years like so many that we see?
     
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    The question from @quiller was, "would that person [YOU] please cite the names of one-term Congressmen in the last 10 years on either side?"
     
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    And what's the appropriate answer?
     
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    Why imminent deletion?
     
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    As the system they created clearly allows for it, they certainly saw the possibility, as they knew not everyone was a noble as Washington.
     
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    A President couldn't defer legal action against a murdered could they?
     
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    you mean like with a pardon?

    if Trump wanted too, he could even pardon the Trump supporters that killed cops on the 6th...

    so technically he could pardon all daca children
     
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