Biden’s ‘kids in cages’ prove his hypocrisy on immigration.

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Just threw that unrelated thing in for the fun of it?
     
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    It's certainly not unrelated. Should you want more detail, meaning that you lack the ability to discern what I was saying, I can gladly provide context. Education is a wonderful way to cure ignorance.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Well there is always insult, I guess.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good question. Add: Return them to whom?
     
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    The best option is to deny them entry into the US, so they then don't become our problem. Force their country of origin to take care of the issue.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    May as well just shoot them, then. Their countries of origin are in so much disarray and strife, there's no way they'd have the resources, or even bother with it if they did. They would likely just turn them loose on their own, putting them right back into the situations from which they fled in the first place.
     
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    I'm guessing that you won't be able to quote them saying that it was about "cruelty."
     
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    Of course not. They weren't that stupid. Sheesh.
     
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    Under control? Donald caused total chaos for having a system where he deliberately separated children from parents to than have no clue who belongs with who. There is no such amount of chaos now under Bidens policies.
     
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    Previous Obama/Trump comparisons on this one were proven to be a lie, but if Biden is actually what Trump did, I'll gladly condemn him for it, too.
     
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    I'm guessing that you won't be able to quote them saying that it was even CLOSE to being about "cruelty."
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Use logic.

    If your policy is draconian not for any functional reason, but only to deter others from following suit, that makes the cruelty of your policy deliberate.
     
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    Well maybe that should just be the platform for the new GOP?
    If its cruelty you want, it will be cruelty you get...Trump 2024
    They sure aint got nothing else!
     
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    Woohoo!

    Barely a month in office, and already smashing records.

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    Go Team Joe!
     
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    Joe's cages are more compassionate. I doubt if AOC tries to claim that people have to drink from the toilet. That is proof! If AOC is not lying about drinking from the toilet that means they are better!
     
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    Team Joe LMAO. As if Joe has anything to do with anything other than cooperating with the CNAs who change him.
     
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    Condemn away then. Obama built the cages, after his "soft of immigrants" rhetoric encouraged the human trafficking of minor migrant children, inspired parents to put their kids on trains alone, and had migrant propagandists encourage the formation of massive caravans, promising them a land of milk and honey. Biden's migration rhetoric, plus Executive Orders, is the same as Obama's but on steroids.

    Obama, Trump and now Biden were/are following our nation's immigration laws, regardless of different rhetoric. Children have to be detained when they get here alone. They have to be separated from adults when they are accompanied, because we cannot immediately tell if the child is with a parent or with a human trafficker in the child sex/slave trade.

    The main difference in Trump versus Obama-Biden is that Trump tried his best to discourage the humanitarian migration crisis, while Obama and Biden inspire them.

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    https://www.statesman.com/story/new...sed-house-minors-separated-family/4587455001/
     
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    CNA?
     
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    Nope, it makes the DETERRENCE of the policy deliberate.
     
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    The Obama administration did not have a policy of separating parents from their children at the border. The "kids in cages" under the Obama administration were kids that had shown up unaccompanied or ones that authorities believed might be in danger from their guardians.

    Making it a policy to separate families at the border, even for non-criminal entrants, started under the Trump administration.
     
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    The only comparison relevant to this thread is that Obama, Trump and Biden all put kids in what the left calls "cages." Of course, they only cared when the kids were in cages under Trump.
     
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    I've already explained the falsehoods in that comparison, at least when it comes to the Obama administration.
     
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    No significant changes in immigration law have been made in the last 50 years. Every presidents' "stated policy" made no difference in each of those presidents having to comply with our laws.

    If an illegal adult and child agree to "go back home", then there is no issue. If the adult wants to file for asylum, that is where we have a problem with extended separation and detention. Buying into media propaganda that Trump was "cruel" but somehow Obama-Biden are/were "compassionate" is a load of biased emotion-churning BS. The law is the law, regardless of president.

    Just because Obama and Biden don't like our laws and they stretch the legally to the furthest "open border" policy possible does not mean that at the end of the day, they did anything differently from Trump with one notable exception. Both Obama and Biden mandated "catch and release" when and adult came in illegally with a child. Trump enforced the legal prosecution of all adults, up to the 20-day mark when the Flores Consent Degree kicked in, at which point there was no choice but to set adults free into the general public and put the children with foster homes under HHS, then hope the adult shows up years later for their court hearing (which most do not).

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018...nforcement-separating-kids-at-border/#slide-1
     
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    If a migrant enters through a legal border crossing, they are not criminals and are treated differently. When they dig under or climb over fences, they become criminals.

    We don't separate anyone who comes through legal methods as established by Congress.
     

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