Biden’s ‘kids in cages’ prove his hypocrisy on immigration.

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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry, you're confused or simply ignorant of the way our system works in reality outside of the media hype.
     
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    Trump's policy included people seeking asylum. These were people who BROKE NO LAW. And most of those who did break the law committed misdemeanors, which we don't typically lock people up for. After policy changes, most adults WERE showing up for their court hearings. And your post is completely nonsensical . . . if Obama had mandated catch and release when adult came in illegally with a child . . . then there would have been no "kids in cages" except for those who arrived unaccompanied. Make up your mind.

    The law does NOT require family separation like this. This is POLICY, not law, and it DID NOT EXIST AS A POLICY until Trump.
     
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    Democrat leaders don't seem to mind the real-life humanitarian toll they place of the weakest and most vulnerable, as long as they can falsely virtue signal that "They care" and "The other party is heartless."

    Obama-Biden political rhetoric only creates vastly more hardship on millions of already desperate and needy people who will get here and be horribly disillusioned when Reality > Political Promises.

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    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018...nforcement-separating-kids-at-border/#slide-1
     
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    They don't seem to have a platform anymore. No policies, no ideology other than whatever Trump says. The Republican Party had courage, honor, and ideas once upon a time, and even though I disagreed with them often, at least they worked on something and didn't spend every bit of political capital they had on simply saying no to everything the Democrats propose.
     
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    It's really too bad that you won't see it for what it was: deliberate cruelty in the name of deterrence. And btw, it didn't even work, so they split thousands of kids off from their parents and traumatized them for life, for no reason at all. Are you really okay with that?
     
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    O'Biden is practicing cruelty in the name of compassion, which is far worse than simply telling migrants that America has immigration laws and that we expect people to follow those laws.
     
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    So there were no kids in detention under Obama? :roflol:
     
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    Blame the Flores ruling by the LIBERAL 9th Circuit Court of Appeal. That's why the kids had to be separated.
     
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    If you head tried reading the thread, you would know the answer to that question, and wouldn't need to make **** up.
     
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    What cruelty?
     
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    Another complete sack of ****. The kids had been separated before then. It wasn't because of the Court of Appeal. The administration could have stopped its policy at any time. No one, not even the 9th Circuit, was forcing them into this policy.
     
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    Your point is that Obama's and Biden's policy is not the same as Trump's. I agree, but that's not the point!
     
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    Yes, but the ruling meant that separation is what happened. And it means that the court was okay with separation.
     
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    It is if you want to make a comparison. If you want to make a comparison, the differences matter. If the differences don't matter, then neither does the comparison.
     
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    No, that's not what the ruling meant. Separation is already what happened before the ruling. The court rubber stamping the pre-existing policy does not absolve the people who, you know, ACTUALLY instituted the policy to begin with.
     
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    Biden revved up the migrant children factories again. Now border security is placed back into the roles of babysitters (again) which allows all the drug cartels and human traffickers to have a field day crossing over illegally with caravans. Border security is now too distracted to monitor and arrest any "normal" flow of illegals much less an open floodgate.

    I guess this is what the Democrats' and Globalists position is for "successful immigration" policy. More children in cages. More jobless asylum seekers out in the streets. More drugs in America. More crime in America. More violence in America. Enriching the cartels and creating more drug overdoses.

    The left and right differ in our definitions of "compassion" and "cruelty".

    And we haven't even hit peak season for migrants attempt to cross illegally. That normally happens in April and May.
     
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    I'm making a comparison to where the kids are kept! Whereby, there is no difference at all! If there was, you would have already said so!
     
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    Which wasn't Trump, just so you know. Flores was 1993.
     
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    As in the migrant detention facilities?
     
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    Well, yes, of course. That's where the U.S. laws say they go when some dumba$$ administration's "policies" encourages a 70%+ increase in a matter of a few months, with more on the way.

    Where else would we put them? We can't just put them on the street and suggest they dumpster-dive behind Wendy's for dinner and then hook up with a homeless person and beg to share their tent under an overpass. ;)
     
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    Yeah but Trump used detention facilities too, right?
     
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    The silence is DEAFENING! :roflol:
     
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    Yes, of course. Obama encouraged the "flood" and built the cages.

    Trump used the cages, but his policies at deterring people from sending their children alone, so some of the facilities were able to close over the last four years.

    Now Biden's "come one come all" policy is creating a new migrant crisis, so he's opening the closed facilities and looking for more space to detain people.

    But, yes. When we get spikes in illegal entrants, unaccompanied kids in particular, we open more buildings to house and feed them.

    Under O'Biden's "catch and release", adults without children or where we verify that the adults are actually the child's parents are most likely to be released fairly quickly with just a promise to show up much later for a court date. They get a bus pass to any city they choose. If they show up for court, most will be deported, so they don't show up and just hide in the shadows for years or decades.

    Trump had a "wait in Mexico" policy while processing asylum applications, so people who weren't qualified for entry never got to enter in the first place. Some still snuck across, but not nearly as many as under Obama. He also had started a plan with Central American countries to allow people to apply for asylum from their home country instead of having to "walk" here in person to apply. Trump's policies really discouraged unqualified people from making a dangerous and fruitless journey, and those policies were a great relieve for our border security resources and good for general national security.
     
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    You mean Bill Clinton?

    Democrat leaders so seem to enjoy locking people up. Clinton mandated detention. Biden wrote the crime bill, locking mostly black men up for drugs. Harris extended jail terms (mostly black inmates) to use them for cheap slave labor on California projects.

    Meanwhile, leaders like Trump tried to deter people from entering unless qualified and invited so that we don't have as many people which we lock up under our current immigration laws.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_detention_in_the_United_States
     
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    To Mexico whence they arrived.
     

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