Race and Crime

Quote it.

By "institutionalized racism", do you mean systemic racism?

My source said that it's naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system. You agree with that don't you?

ALL of what?

This sentence does not make any sense. Can you rephrase?

Hence why % of arrest cannot be trusted according to you! Yet your drug source relies on % of arrest!

It doesn't include unsolved drug crime. Does this sound familiar?

 

Stats which Standford used!

Nope, I accept that white commit more drug crime, based on % of arrests which you don't think is reliable! Meanwhile, you're ignoring facts that black people commit more violent crime based on % of arrests! So it looks like you are totally okay with % of arrests when it suits you!

Then you have no point about white people committing no drug crime!

 

I like the police going after all kinds of crime but violent crime is the most dangerous. I have no problem if they target that area first.

 

Nope
The fact is, the predominantly white police force is more aggressive against black people while APA says that black people are seen as more dangerous.
I already sourced this.

 

Do you know how they determined that black people are seen as more dangerous?

 

And with that, they proved institutionalized racism...

I sourced that:
White people are more criminal on drug related offenses.
White people got more infractions with the law when pulled over.
% of arrest shows that black people are arrested more often over this.

You got no fact that black people commit more violent crimes.
You only got % of arrests showing that black people are arrested more often over this.
It doesn't mean crap, since most violent crimes go unsolved.


And it looks like you keep on sticking to this fabulous idea that everybody who commits a crime is arrested or that when 100 white people and 100 black people commit a crime, that they arrest 20 white and 20 black. You do not seem to comprehend that it can be that out of very 100 black and 100 white people committing a crime the result is that they arrest 10 white people and 60 black people. You really show now you can not grasp it. HELARIOUS. After all this. lol

 

you deny the word "IQ" is in your source? lol

playing shenanigans about definitions now?

I got some massive sources saying racism is all over.
And you are playing that part saying it aint so, which your own source labels as "naïeve".

Nope. My source relied on
A) who does and sell drugs
B) who gets arrested.

And that concludes you can't trust the idea that % who they arrest is % who does the crime.

the "A) who does and sell drugs" includes unsolved drug crime.

 

Why do you want to know how they determined that? Because you got a quack opinion about the results? lol

 

Because I would like to know.

 

I sourced it, so there you go.

 

You sourced the APA saying that black people are seen as more dangerous, but you didn't source how they came to that conclusion.

 

It's in there, but it has nothing to do with saying that "black people are more criminal because their IQ is lower."

No, I know that "institutionalized racism" and "systemic racism" can be used interchangeably, but I'm just checking to see if you see any difference between them.

I've already said that it's naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system. You agree don't you?

Then how the hell can you trust "B) who gets arrested?"

Your source doesn't mention unsolved drug crime.

 

Their conclusions were based on FBI stats which you disagree with!

Alright then, forget about violent crime. What about robbery? Do you acknowledge that black people commit more robbery?

Can you support this?

 

So what. You as an armature are in no position to question if APA did their research correctly.

 

Did you even SEE their research, or did you just see their conclusion?

 

It does say that in an other way, besides that exact phrase you put up. I'm not interested in your word lingo.
To link low IQ to black people... that's so nazi-like. I'm not interested in such sourced.
I'm not going to respond to that again.

No buts... you're just deflecting around.
I got 5 exceptionally high class sources proving it's in the US justice system.
You got 1 source saying that you must be naïve to think it aint so with a nazi-like train of thought.
The end.

I fail to see a problem here.

When you got how many do the crime and how many they catch... than you need to be really really dumb to not being able to figure out how many can get away.
You "proving" black people commit more violent crime, never is about how many violent crimes are solved. It also does not put a dent into disproving racism in the justice system.

 

I only disagree with your conclusions about it.

robbery is not a violent crime?

I proved that with drug relates crimes. White people do more drugs, black people get arrested +300% more often.
I proved that with people being pulled over. Black people get pulled over more. White people got a higher % of having infractions with the law.

It's something I keep saying, and you dishonestly keep foregetting.

 

I'm not making any conclusions! I'm simply agreeing with the data which says that black people commit more violent crime! Simple!

ARMED robbery is! Not robbery! Do you acknowledge that black people commit more robbery? Or do you want to continue to quibble about robbery, and I can just move onto the next crime? In which case you'll probably just say that ALL non-drug crime is violent!

What does this have to do with, "it can be that out of very 100 black and 100 white people committing a crime the result is that they arrest 10 white people and 60 black people?"

 

Okay, so clearly you don't make any distinction between "institutionalized racism" and "systemic racism."

You're confused. The source which says that it's naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system, is this one, which makes no mention of IQ/"nazi-like train of thought:"

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

That source says that it's naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system. You agree don't you?

Because you said "you can't trust the idea that % who they arrest is % who does the crime." But your drug source relied on who gets arrested.

This is meaningless garbage. It's simple: you say that crime data which shows that blacks commit more violent crime cannot be used because it doesn't take into account unsolved crimes. Yet neither does your drug source! But you're happy to use that!

It's a big part of the reason why 38.6% of the prison population is black.

 

Did you even SEE their research, or did you just see their conclusion?

 

And that's the wrong conclusion.
You got data only who they arrest,... since who got arrested excludes crimes unsolved.
As example the arrests made on drug related crimes shows that black people are arrested more,
yet I proved that white people do more drug related crimes. Showing how institutionalized racism works.
on-drug crime is violent!

Because that's how it works.
I proved that with drug related crimes.
I proved that with people being pulled over.

And you still go like. Okay, not all crimes are solved. Yet you still go like when 50 black and 100 white people commit a violent crime, and cops arrest 40 black people and 10 white people... you wrongfully claim it proves that black people commit more violent crimes, because you only eyeball who they arrest.

Do you understand? I really doubt it.

 

Last time I checked, I even proved with 5 sources that racism is institutionalized.
While you refuse to accept it and remain, according to your own source, "naïve".

No. It relies on: who they arrest AND who commits the crime.

No. It relies on: who they arrest AND who commits the crime.

 

You make no point. So I'll be not responding to this to these endless questions.
My source of APA stands saying racism is all over, including in the justice department.

 

So you clearly didn't SEE their research, you just saw their conclusion. Got it!

 

You forgot something!

"Do you acknowledge that black people commit more robbery? Or do you want to continue to quibble about robbery, and I can just move onto the next crime? In which case you'll probably just say that ALL non-drug crime is violent!"