Race and Crime

The university of Stanford is not a credible source?
You're in no position to dismiss it based on your personal opinion.
You personal opinion really means nothing to anybody.

 

no. it's not a credible source for crime statistics, but the FBI certainly is. I am absolutely in a position to dismiss that which bears no evidence, and even worse when we have evidence to the contrary.

SJW time is wasted time.

 

You are in no position to dismiss Stanford as a credible source who made their conclusions when doing their research in the data from the US government. Their law school is ranked among the best of the world.

 

No, I've cited evidence the black people commit more crime.

Your sources don't mention who commits more crime.

Again, I'm totally OPEN to it being racism, whereas you're not open to it NOT being racism!

It's a study. And the conclusion is not taken seriously by Congress.

That's only two crimes.

Not institutionalised racism.

What the hell is an "uncaught black person?"

Only for drugs and traffic, right?

Because you have said that you don't trust 'arrest data.'

You go tell me, that when the cops know who offended the law, regarding a DRUG CRIME, that this is not about who they arrested.

 

You're making it up that by definition black people commit more serious offenses and so end up getting longer sentences by that margin of.. top of my head 10 to 20%.

In the case of drugs and who gets pulled over: yes it does.

You refuse to acknowledge the conclusions of APA, Stanford, nature and HRW... so you're obviously in FULL denial.

The reputation of the quality of their work remains sky high... yet you do everything to discredit this so you can keep on being in FULL denial.

When YOUR source even says... "naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system"... then it talks about institutionalized racism, since it's says it's imbedded in that institution. And no, I'm not interested in playing shenanigans of what institutionalized racism means at this point of the discussion.

Your source talks about victim reports claiming most of the suspects are black.... that's people who aint got caught.
In the light of wide spread racism according to APA: I'm not interested people accusing black people with no prove and no conviction.

I proved there is no link between % of ethnicity who do crimes and % who gets arrested.
Told you time and time again.

I proved there is no link between % of ethnicity who do crimes and % who gets arrested.

 

the fact that you think a law school has more credibility regarding crime statistics that the people who professionally maintain crime statistics cements you as an SJW. all you have proved is you don't care about anything but emotional problems.

 

You're just rephrasing your remarks about how qualified the university of Standford is.
I already replied to this: You are in no position to dismiss Stanford as a credible source.....

 

I don't have to be, the FBI already did. I agree with the actual stats they have not some manufactured apologetics.

 

What do you mean "by definition?" The DATA says that black people commit more serious offenses!

That's only two crimes.

Conclusions of STUDIES! Studies are NOT PROOF!

No, it doesn't say "embedded" either.

No, it says, "While it would be naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system, victim reports don’t support the idea that this is because of mass discrimination."

Exactly, so then how can you trust the % who gets arrested in your drug crime source?

 

If you agree with the stats of the FBI, than you agree with the stats where Stanford is basing their opinion on. lol

 

So YOU agree with the stats of the FBI?

 

It doesn't include unsolved crime.

Still is false to say "Your sources don't mention who commits more crime."

Of course it is. When Stanford, APA, HRW and Nature research something aka make a study, and make conclusions about a subject, then it's them proving how it is according to their knowledge. And you are in no position to go doubt their knowledge. You've lost the discussion.

I care not about your shenanigans that an exact wordt is missing.
Point remains: naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system.

Your source talks about how naïve you are. lol

And I previously said your source talks about victims reports, and you deny it is... to than put in bold that it is about victim reports.
So it remains it's about victim reports, so it's about unsolved crime. I don't care about what some alleged witness has to say, since APA says racism is wide spread.

I don't care about your opinion if you find my source not trustworthy based on only your biased opinion.

 

I agree with the stats, that doesn't mean I agree with some clots' opinion from Stanford. Comprehension is key here.

 

It's not a mystery what data Stanford used to make their conclusions.
The thing most troubling is: YOU being busy, endlessly, with refusing to acknowledge the conclusions of APA, Stanford, Nature and HRW....
because you refuse to accept racism is institutionalized. Your own source calls those people out as being naive.
Priceless. Maybe it's even against forum rules to make a personal attack against yourself. Not sure....

 

I do not care if you agree or disagree with Stanford. Their findings stand, and your opinion compared to theirs is irrelevant.

 

their opinion is no better than anyone else who takes crime stats and then makes up a bunch of s***. In the end the stats still show how disproportionately black crime is to their % in the US. being an SJW doesn't make those numbers change.

 

Okay, so you agree with the stats of the FBI. Which includes stats which say that black people commit the most crime. Simple!

 

"The survey provided no evidence that, in places where blacks had most of their contacts with the criminal justice system, the system treated them more harshly than whites." https://www.ojp.gov/library/abstracts/no-racism-justice-system

"No evidence of racial discrimination in criminal justice processing" https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000470

Why does it NEED to include unsolved crime?

https://ncse.ngo/scientific-study-proves-scientific-studies-cant-prove-anything

I AGREE that it's naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system! Obviously there will be SOME racist judges and prosecutors! Does this mean that there is institutionalized racism?

If my source - which says that it is naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system - thought that there
was mass discrimination in the US criminal justice system, it would have said so. It did not!

YOU find your source not trustworthy! You're just not being honest! Your source includes % of who gets arrested which you don't trust! You said that you "proved there is no link between % of ethnicity who do crimes and % who gets arrested!" So then how can you trust the % of who gets arrested in your drug crime source?

Also, what about UNSOLVED drug crime? It could be the case that if the unsolved drug crimes are included, we would see that black people commit more drug crime!

 

Watch as this tan guy on the highest rated show in Britain in the morning talks out of both sides of his mouth regarding race.



According to this tool he has been a victim of racism. His compliant is that because he is a mixed race person with light skin people will say things to him that they would not say to a black person. So?

People cannot even tell you are not white? So how can you be a victim of racism?

Keeping in mind he gets to voice his opinions on one of the highest rated shows on British tv. Privilege!

 

It's not "an opinion" who has more infractions with the law when pulled over, yet who gets arrested more often.
It's also not "an opinion" who does more drugs, and who gets arrested more often over it.
Those are facts.

Those are facts that -among institutions- Stanford finds.
And you're in no position to dismiss facts with your little opinion.

That Stanford points at that this is all about racism, is indeed their opinion. And it's founded on facts.
It's also a highly qualified source, ranking among the world best universities, and are specialized in justice department.
Putting your little opinion against it as if it matters, is just a joke from 2020 when right wing fake news as a thing.

 

FBI you're eyeballing stats only saying who they arrest more.
You're ignoring facts that white people do more drugs, that I already sourced.
You're ignoring that white people got % wise more infractions with the law when pulled over, yet cop pull over black people a heck of a lot more.
And so there is no link between % who commits crime and % who gets arrested.
It's simple. I told you this before.

 

So you found a handful of dissidents vs the entire American Psychiatric Association, HRW and Stanford.
And you think this is going to impress me? That's mighty bold.

And your source is saying black people are more criminal because their IQ is lower.
Knowing such a claim is exceptionally racist.. I do find it hilarious you pulled that card from Stormfront or whatever iffy site.

Why not?

So you found a handful of dissidents vs the entire American Psychiatric Association, HRW and Stanford.
And you think this is going to impress me? That's mighty bold.

And your source is saying black people are more criminal because their IQ is lower.
Knowing such a claim is exceptionally racist.. I do find it hilarious you pulled that card from Stormfront or whatever iffy site.

The thing is, they don't find ALL of them. When cops are mostly looking for black criminals and so mostly find and so arrest black people. It does mean the % of who they find is true. But there is no link between % who does the crime and % who they arrest.

I already proved that white people do more drug related crime, yet black people get arrested +300% more often.
I already proved that white people got a higher % with infractions with the law when pulled over, yet black people get pulled over more.

Does this sound familiar?

 

yeah. they get arrested more because they are more likely to have done other crimes and have warrants out.

sound familiar?

 

I sourced that white people got % wise more infractions with the law .
Stick to facts.

 

the fact is black people are more belligerent and aggressive with the police, want to guess where that gets you?