Derek Chauvin Murder Trial is on

This picture clearly shows that his right shoulder is lower then left shoulder, i.e. no even close to full weight.
Keeping hand in the pocket also indicated there was no pressure at all, just an attempt to keep it firm.
The other one Chauvin's knee is directly against the back of the head.
Carotid artery theory is BS.

 

As I said, I think they're leading up to calling the ME. My suspicion is the ME didn't do an exam consistent with the kind of scrutiny this case demands.

No, I said we should wait. My impression is that Chauvin screwed up and killed Floyd.

 

You might be able to make a determination, but it's reasonable to look at all of it.

My take on you is that you have already concluded Chauvin is innocent.

 

I think there's too much jumping to conclusions around here.

 

The store clerk said it looked like Floyd appeared high. That only established Floyd may have spaced out.

In the end, expert testimony will be required to establish Floyd's physical condition when he was under Chauvin's knee.

 

Very high and intoxicated as we know he was. We know the defense presented that in their opening statement that the witnesses in the car told investigators Floyd was going to sleep, passing out in the car and now one of those is taking the 5th because he was the one who supplied the drugs he had taken.

 

Yes, the knee is directly on the neck, not on the shoulder.

 

Well in this country we begin with an assumption of innocent don't we? And it's the job of the prosecution to prove otherwise, isn't it? I from the getgo have gone by the evidence wherever that leads just as with all these cases.

 

What leads you to that suspicion sounds pretty self-serving to me? What gives you that impression when you nor anyone else here or in the trial have explained how the knee caused the death?

Floyd did was not asphyxiated, there is no injury to the neck, the videos as seen today and as testified by the use of force expert the leg was across the shoulder as the officers are trained to do.

 

False as the use of force trainer testified today and how the body cams show.

 

Who's I am citing the trained use of force officer viewing the body cam footage, the better angle of events.

 

Where is the knee? On his butt? No, its squarely on his neck. The bodycam photos shows today doesn't even show the knee. Post one, and show us where the knee is.

 

Where's his leg? As the use of force expert testified, over the shoulder as they are trained.

 

Those body cam images you are referring to are about as useful as this image:

 

Seriously? As your own eyes (and everyone eles's) can see, the knee is on the neck. Why do you need people to tell you what you should see, when you have eyes of your own? Look at the picture.

 

Untrained for what? In how to use their eyeballs and brains?

Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's neck for 9:29 mins, as seen on many videos taken at multiple angles, that is indisputable and testified to by all eyewitnesses. I would say millions of people and perhaps hundreds of millions of people can and have seen that quite clearly. That at one point after he was already dead the leg was across the shoulder is irrelevant to and does not change that fact, neither does any kind of training. Regardless, all those who are trainers have testified that this is inconsistent with the training that Chauvin has been taught and an unnecessary use of force.

 

We can see in the video how long he continued to struggle. So far, it looks as though one possible explanation for Floyd's death is the actions of Chauvin. The prosecution says we should blame Chauvin, that he was acting against both policy and training, and that Floyd would not have died but for the Chauvin's actions.

The prosecution is still presenting it's case and you appear to have made up your mind already.

Yeah, so what? Four cops were there.

Is it too much to ask that those cops to arrest George Floyd with thought to his physical safety in mind?

The cops are saying cops are trained to do something else. Right now, they're backing up the prosecution.

 

You have good questions, so sit back and see how they're answered.

 

I saw references to Floyd lifting a shoulder because his chest was compressed. Now, I see discussion about his neck.

 

Putting the knee on a person's neck is not part of Police training. I don't believe it ever has or ever will. Officer Derek Chauvin didn't think George Floyd deserved mercy. It's a crying shame that this happened in the first place.

 

It can upset us all.

 

You keep forgetting the cops line up with the prosecution. They said he acted against reason and training.

 

You keep talking as if this is going to be a one sided trial. Eric Nelson is an able defender of Chauvin and plans to also use Cops as witnesses for Chauvin. Nelson has been clever to also use the Prosecution's cops to help him build a defense of Chauvin.

 

What kicked me first in the groin was the way Floyd handled his end of the encounter with the cops. Resisting instantly is not how to deal with cops. Floyd is said to have a plan to deal with all cops. First by using his mouth on the cops. And for almost evern inst ant of his resist ing arrest, he ran his mouth like a faucet.

These for me are important facts.
1.Immediately submitting to arrest. I believe many have been arrested who were not handcuffed. I have no figures on that but putting on handcuffs when the party being arrested shows no sign of resistance seems to me to be cause not to handcuff.
Floyd was instantly resisting being in custody.
2. Floyds mouth kept getting him deeper into trouble. Recall the other black man? He was not treated as was Floyd though he pleaded the 5th to evade being charged himself for the same murder due to the way the law is written in that state. Supplying or selling drugs to Floyd implicated him in the death of Floyd so says the lawyer of the other black man. (Morries Hall)

https://www.insider.com/derek-chauv...ssenger in,prosecution to squash his subpoena.
Morries Hall, the passenger in George Floyd's car, will plead the 5th in the Derek Chauvin trial
Morries Hall, a man who was in the car with George Floyd on the day of his death, has invoked his 5th Amendment right not to testify in the trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin.

Hall had been sitting in the front passenger seat of the Mercedes SUV with Floyd when police approached him on May 25, 2020, after he was reported to have used a fake $20 bill at Cup Foods.

"Mr. Morries Lester Hall, through undersigned counsel, hereby provides notice to all parties in this matter that if called to testify he will invoke his fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination," a Wednesday motion from the Office of the Hennepin County Public Defender said.

Chauvin's attorney, Eric Nelson, told jurors in his opening statement that investigators had found pill fragments that tested positive for a mixture of methamphetamine and fentanyl in the car. Those drugs were found in Floyd's system after his death.

 

You claim no agenda. Okay.