Derek Chauvin Murder Trial is on

I saw the testimony and I have a different take.

 

Why would the head need to be immobilized?

 

Manslaughter against his dealer. They'll be riots no matter what. That's what they do.

 

Its the system we have, and yes, he might still be acquitted, To me it looks like textbook case of manslaughter, but you never know what the jury is thinking. The jury has to be in unanimous agreement, which is somewhat strange, but it is what it is. I'll accept whatever they decide.

Its very odd people see this as a political issue, when its obviously not. I have not seen FOX, or CNN take on it, I only watch the live coverage from the trial, but I would not be surprised if FOX is making this into another political issue, because what is what they are in business of doing.

The cause of death was not OD, so the dealer is not charged with it. Will there be riots? Maybe, maybe not. Who will riot if Chauvin is found guilty? Q-Anonites?

 

If you can't read or you could ask your mother to read it for you.

 

Because of his erratic behavior, they did not want him to bang his head against the ground.

 

No one could have predicted his death. let alone to recognize that on time
It looks like you guys have an assumption that Chauvin some kind of medical professional.

 

He was never banging his head in the first place

 

You don't have to be a medical professional to know that loss of pulse is a situation which requires immediate medical intervention (which Chauvin has been trained to render). However, when Chauvin was told Floyd no longer had a pulse, he did not render aid, but continued to press his knee on his neck for another 3 minutes. He was responsible for the well being of his prisoner, which is why he is being held responsible. Do you understand this "responsible" concept?

I'd say practically everyone can predict that a person will die if the heart stops and no one renders aid.

 

That is what people do with drug-induced psychosis
https://www.priorygroup.com/mental-...bis,symptoms of psychosis, including paranoia.

 

Once again you go off onto a completely different scenario LOL . The subject is what Floyd was doing, try and stay on the actual event

 

Again, you are looking to the event retrospectively, making an assumption that Chauvin knew everything that you know today.
Sure, that exact moment why he did not recognize the death should be investigated, but so far no one is doing it.
All I hear is that Chauvin is a racist cop (because he is white) wanted to kill innocent black man.

 

Ah I see, so the cop not only had to be trained to recognize psychosis, but they should have found special approach and individual treatment for George Floyd.
By the way he could not bang his head in vertical position.

 

It's the officer's duty to check on the suspect at all times when using the knee as a restraint on the neck, that is part of the training

 

No. He knew right then and there that Floyd had no pulse, and he chose to not render help. He chose to keep the pressure on.

That is his biggest problem.

That's all you hear? That is not an honest claim, and anyone reading this thread knows that. No one at the trial has called him racist, and hardly anyone on this thread has done that. The "white man victimhood complex" won't work here.

 

That is impossible, to fight and check health status at the same time.
I am sure they were checking his health, but not every second.
How often do you think nurse is checking patients in the emergency room?

 

Yes, we are sure, because they checked his pulse, and found that his heart had stopped, but it made no difference to Chauvin because he kept the pressure on the neck for another 3 minutes.

Not sure why you are having such a hard time grasping this.

As soon as they realize that heart stops, they go into IMMEDIATE emergency gear. Chauvin.......not so much.

 

When did Chauvin check Floyd before Floyd died? He even kept his hand in his pocket while Floyd was dying

There was no fight

Does a nurse place her knee on patients necks?

 

That is kind of dishonest statement from your side.
1. We do not know when Chauvin officially found out that Floyd has no pulse. Whatever he has heard from the crowd does not count.
2. We do not know whether Chauvin continued apply pressure, to the neck, I believe he relived the pressure by moving his leg to the right.

 

Yep, that is problem with this discussion
You are trying to deny well documented fact.
There was a fight.

 

how often? Every minute? Every five minutes?

 

We know it for fact, since there is video evidence of the other cop checking the pulse and telling Chauving there was no pulse.

We know this for fact, since there is video evidence. He did not render help. He stayed applying pressure after being told there was no pulse.

One time was enough to confirm the heart had stopped. Are you kidding me? One time should have made them jump into action to save his life, but they did nothing.

I am not going to keep repeating this forever. You can believe anything you want and anything you have been told to believe. I am simply going by the evidence on tape and comments made by medical experts and senior LE officers.

 

Did you listen to the testimony of his trainer and all the experts? Do you know what the term "use of force continuum" is?

Police Chief: Chauvin ‘Absolutely’ Violated Use Of Force Policy In Floyd Arrest
Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo condemned Derek Chauvin’s actions during the former police officer’s murder trial.

“There’s an initial reasonableness in trying to just get him under control in the first few seconds,” Arradondo said. “To continue to apply that level of force to a person proned out, handcuffed behind their back ― that in no way, shape or form is anything that is by policy, is not part of our training and is certainly not part of our ethics or our values.”

He testified later that officers are trained to evaluate a situation and reassess the circumstances during an arrest, including the threat level to an officer or others, the severity of the alleged crime and a person’s medical condition.

“It is contrary to our training to indefinitely place your knee on a proned, handcuffed individual for an indefinite period of time,”Arradondo stated, adding that he “vehemently” disagrees that Chauvin demonstrated the “appropriate use of force for that situation.”

Arradondo has been an outspoken critic of Chauvin’s actions. He fired Chauvin and three other officers involved in Floyd’s arrest the following day and has called Floyd’s death a “murder.”

Arradondo said Monday that Chauvin also violated the police department’s policy on rendering aid to a person in medical distress. None of the officers moved off of Floyd until paramedics arrived on the scene the day of Floyd’s arrest. And though all police officers are trained in first aid, including chest compressions, none of the officers attempted to provide any medical assistance to Floyd until after the ambulance arrived.

Minneapolis Police Inspector Katie Blackwell, who was in charge of the department’s training programs at the time of Floyd’s death, testified Monday that all officers are trained in the risks of positional asphyxia, which occurs when someone’s position prevents them from breathing adequately.

Being handcuffed while lying facedown on the ground, as Floyd was for nearly 10 minutes, could inhibit a person’s breathing and cause positional asphyxia, Blackwell said.

“I don’t know what kind of improvised position this is,” she said when prosecutors showed her a still image of Chauvin kneeling on Floyd’s neck. “That’s not what we train.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/minn...erek-chauvin-trial_n_606b6359c5b6c00165c43a4c

I don't know why posters here insist they know better than experts and invent their own personal fantasies.

 

Thank you for yet another absurd comment.

 

Just trying to keep up with you but it's tough.