Derek Chauvin Murder Trial is on

He used his body weight as trained on a suspect who as the UOF officers testified could sudden become violent again without warning.

 

That's what I wrote -
"Wooo, you've just incarcerated Chauvin by admitting that Chauvin still used his knee on a passed out (he was actually dead) restrained captive "

Moved his knee from the neck to the shoulder after Floyd had already died, so he still carried on using his knee on a dead person and did not even bother to look at his captive or allow anyone to check him even after someone said that he had no pulse.

 

I've listened to the majority of it including the UOF officers conceding the knee was between the shoulder blades and the video from the otherside of the SUV does not give a clear view of what was actually going on.

 

He probably did not know that Floyd has died.

 

This was what I asked:

You claim you listened to the majority of it, yet you failed to post what I asked. Why is that?

 

I can say with comfort that you do not understand the use of force continuum. it exists to define self defense of a police officer and effecting an arrest. there is nothing in the use of force continuum regarding detaining a suspect.

 

Lead investigator testifies that the fluid seen running towards the curb was NOT urine as some claimed and that it indicated Floyd was dead. It was condensation from the SUV A/C.

Testifies that while on the ground Floyd said "I eat too many drugs"

 

You didn't watch the cross?

 

Thanks for your worthless explanation but I listened to all the expert testimony so I know what it is in intricate detail.

EDIT: It has everything to do with attempting to detain a suspect because there would never be a need to try to use force when necessary otherwise.

 

So bottom line you can't post any link because none exists because no expert witness who has testified so far has ever claimed that Chauvin was doing the job he was trained to do. In fact they have all claimed just the opposite which fully contradicts your baseless claim that he was doing the job he was trained to do. Of that there are many quotes available from all the expert witnesses. And I'm quite sure you're well aware of that.

 

Sorry I confused the issue. There is a difference between an arrest and a detention. Having said that a detention can occur without an arrest but to arrest someone also serves to detain that person.

 

Two misleading points. Firstly no one investigated the fluid so no one knows what it was. Secondly, a deliberate dishonest claim by the defense to say that Floyd said "I eat too many drugs" which no one could really hear and later context was added to show that he unlikely said anything like the defense claimed he did. Dishonesty from the defense by cutting a video clip to remove context

 

You can see from the body cams which were shown to the lead investigator. That is what he said you can hear it. And the defense like the prosecution does not have to show the entire video when they are referring to a particular point in time. And we KNOW he had MORE than a fatal dose of those lethal drugs in his system.

 

Yes in the cross when they were showing each the training video's and slides and then the body cam footage. They were trained to use their body and that includes across the shoulders. Where they agreed Chauvin had positioned his leg. They also agreed that person in such conditions as was Floyd can get suddenly violent, without notice. They all dispelled the assertions that have been made about they should have tied up his legs and then backed away. The officers WANTED him in the SUV where he could be comfortable and calm awaiting the arriving any second ambulance. It was Floyd who refused to do so and caused himself to be prone on the ground.

 

are you sure? Did you really, really listen?

 

You are dancing around what I asked you. Again, I asked you to provide a link to any quote from any expert witness who testified so far that claims that Chauvin was doing his job in accordance with his training at all times during his confrontation with Floyd. Is that clear enough for you? And for bonus points, if you can point to any of these expert witnesses who testified so far who has not made any disparaging claims about Chauvin's use of force (either being excessive or unnecessary).

 

We have posters that are so desperate Chauvin be convicted they are not paying close attention to all of the evidence.

They ended today discussing the Meth and Fentanyl found left behind by Floyd.

 

So are you claiming Floyd was an innocent bystander who had no dangerous drugs on him, in his system or left behind in the two cars?

 

I've been on juries and it gets tough when they are calling such witnesses and they have to go through all their history and education and qualification for the trial record just to get to the testimony of fact.

Yep, and along with the additional confirmation of the drugs found in the cars, we also found out Floyd once he was on the ground told the officers he eat to many drugs.

 

All completely irrelevant to being murdered by chauvin, which is captured on video. The technique used by chauvin is illegal. You can’t kneel on a subdued, hand cuffed and face down laying suspects neck for over 9 minutes, 3 of which he was unconscious or dead

 

12:30 p.m. Testimony of use-of-force instructor concludes
"Attorney Eric Nelson had Lt. Johnny Mercil, a use-of-force instructor for the department, confirm on the witness stand Chauvin appeared to be kneeling on Floyd's shoulder in footage from a camera that another officer wore during Floyd's arrest that night. Mercil's testimony and documents cited in court Tuesday also showed that Minneapolis officers sometimes use such holds when placing suspects in handcuffs."

According to the lieutenant, officers may continue to restrain an individual with such a hold even after handcuffing them if they believe the suspect will continue to resist arrest or if the situation at hand is still generally unsafe. The defense has several times insinuated that the crowd of bystanders gathered at the scene of Floyd's arrest on May 25 made the circumstances more volatile."
https://www.thedickinsonpress.com/d...e-instructor-continues-with-cross-examination

 

I could not hear what the defense claims Floyd said. No one asked for the entire video

 

Today I got my CV19 shot and paid less attention today to the proceedings. The shot did not hurt and so far I have no adverse reaction. But I watch it on youtube presented by Washington post. All the yapping on CNN etc. is not on this site.

But we have some that pronounce guilt though the case has a lot more to go to conclude anything other than Floyd fought the cops, had drugs in his system with more in the two cars left by Floyd. We have one witness taking the 5th to keep from putting himself into jail for crimes.

This dog and pony show should not be televised. Too many leap to conclusions still not in evidence, such as Floyd was a victim of a corrupt cop.

I am concerned for the other victims when the blame is put onto Floyd and millions will think Chauvin is guilty. Riots and burning of buildings is normal for blacks dying at the hand of cops.

 

Please quote anywhere where I posted that. Or if you can't (and I know you can't) please show what any of that has to do with the murder of Floyd by Chauvin.

 

It was a question and there is no need for you to go off on me.

Are you claiming that the Jury has already made up it's mind because you did?