A Fundamental Reason for Vaccine Hesitancy

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    You keep asking the same question. Why don't you post your research instead of trolling those of us do?
     
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    Yes, you have posted data to distract from the actual question. The truth is that the risk is extremely low and does not justify the extreme measures politicians are pushing. Meanwhile, the same politicians are promoting a diet that carries a significantly higher risk. 1 in 3 Americans are diabetic or pre-diabetic.

    Memes are great. Why think for ones self when it has already been done for you!
     
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    The people who have taken over our ICU's throughout significant regions are those who refused to be vaccinated against COVID.
     
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    The "actual question" you talk about reflects your agenda and isn't what motivates a significant number of people who pull back spending as the amount of virus circulating increases.
    Even if the pols you decry make things worse (I don't agree they do), the economy is going to struggle until the new case count comes wayyyyy down. Vaccines and some mitigation efforts are the key.
    My wife taught foods classes for more than three decades. Changing folks' diets is an extremely difficult task. We're not going to solve the pandemic by eating better.
     
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    There have been attempts to regulate sugar, as it is well known to be more dangerous than alcohol.

    This is just another place where sound science based understanding is rejected by the American people.
     
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    I am not discouraging others from making their own decision. You, sir, are the one with the agenda. You support extreme measures being imposed on those with an extremely low risk. If your wife has knowledge in this area, she is aware of the types of illnesses and the causes. Changing the American diet has been accomplished by food giants and the politicians.

    While the vaccine has some value, mostly to the sick and frail, there is little to no value for those who are healthy.
     
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    The risk is high enough to justify the wise measures the scientifics (CDC) are pushing.

    Would you care to supply some evidence to back your statements from time to time? Saying anything just to look smart doesn't impress me, nor probably anyone else, btw.
     
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    Odd that you would bring up "wise" and "smart" in the same post. Do you know the difference?

    Here is the info on diabetes:


    https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/librar...cans—just over,Asians and non-Hispanic whites.
     
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    I don't need the government to tell me how to avoid diabetes or a virus. This is the same government subsidizing the products that cause illness in the first place.
     
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    Which products "subsidized" by the government are you referring to?
     
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    I wouldn't never again take advice from the CDC as I believe they are also complicit in all this man made virus and those that cultured it and set it free on the world..
     
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    Yeah, BB; your BS production is well-known and widely applauded by the Trump cultists!
     
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    I will give you one example. Corn is subsidized and is used to sweeten beverages Americans are consuming at record levels of HFCS. If someone requires government assistance, the government will even use your tax dollar to buy sweetened beverages for the poor. About 10% of SNAP/Food Stamps/EBT is spent on sweetened beverages and once symptoms show up, government subsidized pharm products are prescribed so that the patient can comfortably continue their unhealthy habits.

    There is a lot more to research, but the end results is a fatter, sicker America.
     
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    *Bows* tips are welcome!!!
     
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    That's a better example than what I would have brought up, which is the Incredible Edible Egg! Used in all sorts of deserts and fatty junk foods.

    Yes, I love them fried, over easy, soft boiled, hard boiled, scrambled, etc.
     
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    Yeah, Trump greatly increased subsidies to farmers, their biggest crop production being corn, to compensate for the stupid tariffs on imports from China.
    Would you stop these subsidies (50 billion + per year) to farmers? Is that on your program for the primaries?

    Or might there be other ways to decrease the consumption of sweetened beverages in the US?
     
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    Use real sugar. It will up the price, taste better, and result in slightly less consumption.
     
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    Good idea! But what do you want to subsidize or unsubsidize?
     
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    Putting the tanTrump aside, this started a long time ago. Neither party will bite the hand that elects them.

    I don't believe either party will work to make a difference until the number of people too sick to work reaches a tipping point.

    Meanwhile, I choose not to consume these products.
     
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    I personally don't think the federal government should be in the business of subsidizing anything.
     
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    Yes, I do not believe the number is that high. Oregonian COVID death counters admitted that motorcycle deaths and people who die from cancer can be considered COVID deaths. (1) The numbers are fudged.

    Biden has been running for president for the last 30 years, and he never made it close to getting past the primaries as the Democrat presidential nominee. Then, this year, when all the basic voter integrity laws go away and absentee voting, which increases voter fraud, is implemented on a wide scale, Dementia Joe gets more votes than any other presidential nominee in US history? Please. If you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

    1. https://www.kgw.com/article/news/in...aths/283-0b1b7b6c-695e-4313-92cf-a4cfd7510721
     
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    Irrelevant. You don't need to know whether I wear a mask or not. I am not the one making hysterical claims that serve as the touchstones of draconian policies that have crippled businesses and led to an uptick in suicides, nor do I have the power to put into legislative effect my rhetoric or concepts, while Nancy Pelosi, the de facto leader of the Democrat Party does, and she has made those hysterical claims about COVID. Not only is this irrelevant, it's a false comparison.


    How is that BS?

    This is the issue at hand: you don't think. If you do think, then that is even worse, for then you know that you are a hypocrite who talks up COVID as being a dangerous, deadly disease, condemns Republicans, including Republican governors that are trying to safeguard our liberties, but then incongruently support Nancy Pelosi facing absolutely, positively no political consequences whatsoever for, on multiple occasions, flagrantly violating the supposed very prescriptions to mitigate a supposedly deadly pandemic. Disgraceful!

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    Again, Democrat projection. You are the cult member. You. Not Butterballs, not me. You! It's been you all along! For example, despite your claims of not being a Democrat, you have, with a cultish fervor, defended the indefensible actions of Nancy Pelosi in this thread.
     
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    GDP is growing relative to the Democrat-created recession. Nice.

    As for the unemployment number being low, (1) it's not as low as it was before March 2020, and (2) the unemployment number would be higher if more people were applying for jobs. As it stands, the federal pandemic unemployment and other safety nets, including the eviction moratorium, did not incentivize people to look for work. According to Forbes, there are 10 million jobs available right now, so the unemployment number should be lower; but it's not, because a lot people are enjoying sniffing their farts and watching Netflix on the dime of the federal and state government, as opposed to looking for a job. Additionally, inflation is skyrocketing, because of the out-of-control spending of this administration.
     

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