Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weapons

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Granted Trump does not handle criticism well.But compare the
    criticism Trump got with what Biden Gets.
    It's night and day.And yes Biden did fire very quickly many
    people from Trump's adm.The latest being those Military Academy Board
    members -.They were told to either Resign or get fired.
    They still had time left on terms.When the termination call was made.
    Some were Obama appointees.General Jack Keane was one who got
    the letter to Resign or Get Terminated.He had a year left on his appointment.
     
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    Just as an aside I have to wonder how many fifty cent army people are posting here on this thread. Given the fact that the CCP has access to a traitor (Millie) in such a high position, they want keep him there.
     
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    Let's see the full transcript of the call what she was demanding and what he was offering. Neither have a role in the command of the military or nuclear launches.
     
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    Evidence for the diagnosis? And your qualifications in the mental health field are what exactly?
     
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    The most serious call was following January 6th. Get over it...it was an attempt to overthrow the presidential election. The break-in was a planned part of the attempt. If Trump had prior knowledge of the break-in and didn't inform law enforcement, he's a co-conspirator.
     
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    Since the 1980's the JCS are merely an advisory board to the President and certain civil officers. They have NO command or control authority as the JCS and the Chairman has no command and control authority over the military or individual branches. He is NOT in the chain of command for launching a nuclear attack and can exert no authority over one. All he can do is advise the President and the Secretary of Defense who then act with the heads of each branch of the service.

    Don't take our word for it go look it up yourself.
     
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    So then it's not possible that Trump { by name } is not easily The most
    recognized name and face on Planet Earth. ? Say it ain't so.
    Not bad for a Queens boy who went to Military school.
    Don't sound too crazy to me.
    Plus Trump Proved he's not insane or Crazy.He was told to take a
    cognition test and he did.Passed with flying colors.
    What other inane tommyrot have you got to prove nothing but
    sheer hate.
     
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    And was fired for insubordination and acting in a foreign policy manner and interfering with the official acts and position of the United States as directed by the President.
     
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    Read "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump." It's the assessment of 27 psychiatrists, psychologists and mental health experts. It was published before he was elected. We were warned.
     
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    True, and there are some striking similarities between some of the things MacArthur did and what Woodward and Costa allege Milley did:

     
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    Really. Maybe you should read what Clinton's SECDEF has to say on the subject.
    https://strategicdemands.com/nuclear-use-chain-of-command/
     
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    So, is an ignorant nincompoop capable of satisfying the mens rea requirement for a conviction for espionage let alone treason?
     
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    As Milley was NOT fired for insubordination, nor acting in a foreign policy manner or for interfering with the official acts and position of the United States as directed by the President. Unless, of course, you think Trump was planning a sneak attack on China?
     
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    From your link.....The President may direct the use of nuclear weapons through an execute order via the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to the combatant commanders and, ultimately, to the forces in the field exercising direct control of the weapons.

    Seems the JCS is in the Chain of Command after all.
     
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    And SecDef says calls were not authorized! Where is Trump when we need him. You're fired Milley!
     
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    Yes he was and he should be fired now if this true. He is NOT in that chain of command and has no authority to intercede in such actions or direct other officers to ignore orders and take theirs from HIM. Trump wanted to keep pressure on China, that is a foreign policy matter. Milley appears to have tried to interfere with that. Remember when Flynn merely told the Russian ambassador they should not over react to the Obama sanctions when the Russian ambassador contacted him with concerns and he was NSA dealing with such policy matters. But that is the least serious. It's his insubordination and attempts to usurp authority from the President of the United States.
     
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    Yes, Trump thought he could get away with shutting down the most lucrative boondoggle in human history - the USG's 75 years of endless warfare.

    “United States has debt-financed as of 2020: $2 trillion.
    Estimated interest payments on that $2 trillion so far (based on a higher-end estimate of interest rates): $925 billion.
    Estimated interest costs by 2030: $2 trillion.
    Estimated interest costs by 2050: $6.5 trillion.
    THE WARS END. THE COSTS DON'T: Amount Bilmes estimates the United States has committed to pay in health care, disability, burial and other costs for roughly 4 million Afghanistan and Iraq veterans: $1.6 to $1.8 trillion. Period those costs will peak: after 2048.”
    ABC NEWS, The cost of the Afghanistan war, in lives and dollars, The nearly 20-year American combat mission in Afghanistan was the United States’ longest war, By ELLEN KNICKMEYER Associated Press, July 12, 2021.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/cost-afghanistan-war-lives-dollars-78802965
     
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    This has nothing to do with break-ins. Milley acted without authority and in insubordination. He is not in the chain of command of the military or for nuclear launches. If Pelosi had a fear she should have spoken with the SecDef and the President himself.
     
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    No...Milley was NOT fired by Trump. Flynn violated an old law under which no one had ever been prosecuted. If he had not pled guilty, he probably would have never been charged.
     
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    He can deliver THE PRESIDENT'S instructions. If that well known liar, Woodward can be believe, that is not what is being described and you know it.

    NO ONE ELECTED MARK MILLEY:

    We The People are the Sovereigns, we have no Lords nor Ladies. We have no nobility. NO ONE has an inherent right to rule, ALL legitimate authority in the US is derived from US and we select those that serve in authority by the ballot box. When you ponder whether Milley is exercising legitimate authority, you trace it to find the grant of authority from the Electorate. In the illustration you used, it's simply, there is a clear line from The Electorate to the President to Milley.

    In what Woodward describes, what is described is an exercise of illegitimate authority, as it is not derived from We The People.
    First we have to determine is what is alleged is true.
     
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    How many actually examined him?
     

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