Biden received a mandate that he must follow

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  1. Hoosier8

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    He just ignores the constitution.
     
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    How?
     
  3. Hoosier8

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    By ignoring the laws congress passed and unconstitutional EO’s that get shot down in court.
     
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    Neither did Trump and your opinion concerning Biden on that matter is ay best a sick joke.
     
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  5. Bluesguy

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    Hardly he and the Republicans got us through the 2001 hitting just 6.5% unemployment for one month then quickly falling to full employment, a deficit peak of just $400B then falling to a measly $161B.

    THEN the Democrats took the Congress and they "wrecked" the economy by not passing similar measures to help mitigate the slowdown and mortgage collapse and then passing exactly the wrong measures to get us into a recovery Obama's stimulus failing by his own measure and taking the deficit to $1,400B just two years later and keeping it over $1,000B for the next 3.

    Then the Republicans started taking back the Congress and passing austerity and sequester giving more confidence to the markets and the economy finally started a real recovery.
     
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    And by 2007 the Dems lameducked him and in 2008 cut him out completely.
     
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    He actively asked his advisers if they could LEGALLY challenge the election on the grounds he was seeking and was told no you can't do that and so they didn't. That is THE ****ING POINT. And it is OK to have those discussions and make those decisions.
     
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    NO! No, it is NOT. The President of The United States can NOT, in good faith to his oath, explore ways to subvert OUR Constitution; which is AbsaByGodLutely what Trump did.
     
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    In your humble opinion.
     
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    To say .nothing of accurate.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    He like any other candidate can and he sought to LEGALLY challenge the elections and his advisers told him no he could not do those things and he said OK AS I HAVE ALREADY CITED AND QUOTED.

    What did he do that was illegal and be specific, what has he been charged with by the DOJ or FEC and be specific.
     
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    Trying to subvert a free and fair election is illegal. Donald Judas tRump tried to subvert the election by declaring martial law, he tried to get the DOJ to lie about the election's veracity so that he and the Republican leadership could then, ambiguously, overturn the election, he tried to interfere with State and local officials as they certified their States election, he sent his followers to the capitol to interfere with the certification of OUR election. NONE of that is normal or legal.
     
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    Not when you include the recession at the end of his second term.

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    He utterly failed to stop the subprime mortgage ripoffs.

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  16. LangleyMan

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    So, who said he wasn't within his rights to be wrong?
    When he posted on a public debate forum, he should expect someone might challenge his views.
    My post wasn't addressed to you.
     
  17. Joe knows

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    His judges are 56, 54, and 49 years of age. They most definitely can be in the Supreme Court for decades. They most definitely will serve as a check for the ultra left and am glad they’re there. I think Trump done is a (in his words :) ) a “huge” favor by putting them there.
     
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    Biden is on track alright. He is exactly where most that we would be and only after 8 short months
    Highest illegal border crossings in history
    Mandating vaccines for those who already had Covid with much higher immunity
    Worst inflation in over 20 years
    Gas prices doubled
    Americans left behind enemy lines
    Gold Star families calling Biden out for his obnoxious behavior at Dover
    Falsely accusing our border agents of whipping migrants
    Falsely accusing American parents as domestic terrorist to host FBI involvement
    Wanting an accounting of everyones bank account who spend over $600
    Can't face the media without a list he is instructed to call on
    Ignoring global leader request for information on his overnight evacuation of Afghanistan making him the first president in history to be held in contempt by the UK Parliament
    47 hospitals out of business over idiotic Covid restrictions forcing them to shut down elective surgery profit centers
    Thousands of medical staff leaving due to mandates when they already had Covid
    Biden staff cutting live feeds when Biden starts his off script wandering
    Lowest approval rating of any president yet supposedly more votes than any president in history and in 8 short months.

    Funny how nobody is making Threads about Biden accomplishments or this leftist utopia he is creating.
     
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  19. LangleyMan

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    The recession as over before Bush could do anything about it.
    Bush then proceeded to let the subprime mortgage ripoff go unchecked.

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    The recovery was well underway before the Republicans took back Congress in 2011.

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    Just the kind of response we’ve come to expect...seldom right but always confident.
     
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    Seriously? That authoritarian crypt keeper is actually taking food off the table of Americans that just want to work and feed their families. He did this by dictate. It's a disgusting abuse of power. There will be a reckoning.
     
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    Yes. The claim that Biden has this "great mandate" is a pile of crap. Clearly the Dems in Congress do NOT have a mandate and it's unlike they will have the majority much longer.

    Business Insider reported, "Democrat Sen. Joe Manchin sided with Senate Republicans in strongly disapproving of a fiery, partisan speech by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer on Thursday night before a vote to raise the debt ceiling by $480 billion.

    "Manchin reportedly told Schumer his speech was '****ing stupid,' while Republican Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah said it was a 'time to be graceful' after 11 Senate Republicans had voted to break a GOP filibuster and allow the vote to take place."

    "Sometimes when you spike the ball, it bounces back right into your smug and arrogant face."

    Dems aren't lashing out like this because they think they are winning.
     
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    So we just give him a pass on violating 18 USC 2385?

    Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

    Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

    Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

    Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

    If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

    As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.


    I have argued here and will continue to argue that when a Potus speaks their speech constitutes the use of force. When he fired the SecDef and replaced him with Spencer that was the use of force in his attempt to overthrow the government of the United States. When he consistently used the office of the President to discredit the election both before and after it he willfully advocated the desirability and propriety of overthrowing the government of the United States. When he called the Secretary of State of Georgia he attempted to overthrow the government of the United States and the government of the State of Georgia. And on January 6th he knowingly and willfully advocated and advised of the duty, necessity, desirability and propriety of overthrowing the government of the United States. This is my opinion and you are entitled to yours Sir. That you find it sufficient that he never regains the office is your opinion, not mine.


    The success of employers keeping average wages at roughly the same level they were in 1979 is a policy that has been in place since long before Trump as is clearly shown by the data you selected to include to make your point. It is the predominant reason that the all volunteer military works in the US, among other advantages which the Federal government sees fit to enforce on its own behalf as well as on behalf of the many corporations that so successfully have lobbied to have their interests gain supremacy over the interests of the people. We suffer under the rule of a Federal government that has morphed into an entity beyond the control of the people's 435 voting members of the House, the 100 voting members of Senate representing the States and the President representing the incoherent winner-take-all 538 votes of the electoral college. It is a bureaucracy beyond their control - staffed by career professionals in the civilian sector backed by career professionals in the military, intelligence and law enforcement sectors. All of whom support legislation written by corporations for corporations with the Federal government being the largest corporation of them all. Walmart and Amazon supply flat screen equivalents to circuses and Monsanto and ADM supply the bread and if you're lucky enough to work for a large enough corporation then you get to have health care coverage for a somewhat affordable cut out of your paycheck. If you work for a small company or for yourself then affordable health care is nominally unaffordable. If you live in a wealthy neighborhood then public education for K-12 isn't too totally atrocious, but if you live in most of the rest of the country then the quality is distinctly less than what it takes to foster an informed and educated electorate. My point of course being that there are a good many things that we also need to deal with before all the folks with guns and ammo decide to deal with it as it has been dealt with for centuries. There are quite a few hardcore folks here in the US that are just itchin' for it. 21st Century Charlie Mansons, being egged on by folks of quality like Trump and all of his minions such as Louie Gohmert, Devin Nunes, Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Wendy Rogers, not to even mention the outstanding Senators: McConnell, Cruz, Rubio, Graham and the feckless Susie Collins. The Ds are little better, Pelosi, Schumer, Bernie Sanders and that sorry bitch that claimed to be Native American as a method to enhance her opportunities, Elizabeth Warren. Astounding the lack of outrage from the left that she laid claim to false ethnicity.

    Sweet, I've bored even myself with this worthless diatribe rant....
     
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    Help me, here. You're posting this list of partisan mantras as a defense against being accused of being partisan? Not gonna work.
     
  25. Jack Hays

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    This is mere partisan spew of the shallowest and least self-aware kind. Does not merit further response.
     

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