$6 or $7 per gallon is a small price to pay to defend democracy....

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    We have a strong economy, higher entry-level salaries in most of the country, tiny unemployment.'... So now, most of us can afford it.

    What we CAN'T afford is repeating the errors of the past.

    Maybe we could have avoided high gas prices by sending an emissary... maybe somebody named Chamberlain... to appease Putin. Allowing him to take Ukraine, in exchange for his "pinky-promise" not to invade other countries after that.

    We can afford a temporary increase in gas prices. And it's well worth it to stop another megalomaniac from taking over democratic regimes.

    So sorry to fans of Putin's puppet, but people understand that there is a price to be paid to defend democracy. And it's a good thing that we have to pay it now that most people can afford it.
     
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    Why is the cost of gasoline going up so much JUST BECAUSE THE SUPPLY OF UNREFINED CRUDE OIL HAS BECOME HARDER TO GET??? It is pure profiteering by the oil companies.
     
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    Why did the oil companies start profiteering so hard as soon as Biden took office?

    What magic did Trump have that kept the oil companies from profiteering?
     
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    What about all the people who can't afford it?

    Wasn't Joe supposed to make things better for the poorest of Americans?
     
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    A recession, and worldwide reduction in oil demand because people were driving much less during the pandemic. It's not rocket science.
     
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    Thank you for posting this, @Golem. I feel exactly the same way. I am having a difficult time reading all the 'oh poor me' threads about how hard we have it in America. We have no idea what it would be like to be under attack the way Ukraine is, yet many are whining about how high the price of gas is! We are the self proclaimed 'greatest nation in the world' - so lets start acting like it!
     
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    This pretty much sums up the attitude of Democrats-

    AMERICANS DESERVE TO SUFFER!
     
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    How about before the pandemic? What anti-profiteering magic did Trump have then?
     
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    Most can afford it. The bad part is that we are paying it to countries we do not like.
     
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    Oil is a world pool commodity. If Russia’s crude is being somehow withheld from the pool, it will have the effect of pushing up prices prices. But allowing it in, keeps prices down (which actually hurts Russia). The big change was the ear popping drop to $25ish under zTrump. That was killing Russia.
    PERSONALLY, I would be worried about grain prices. That’s gonna sting.


    We can afford a temporary increase in gas prices.[/QUOTE]
     
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    It's not about gas or anything other than the letter behind the President's name. We're too far gone. People are siding with criminals over the Capitol police officers they mob attacked and a dictator that invaded a country over their own POTUS.

    I've always heard how many people in other countries don't think highly of us and used to feel a bit defensive but I totally get it now.

    Americans in the United States aren't "united" at all and the magnitude of hatred is outrageous. I still love our country and I still strive to be a better person every day but everything I believed in about us, We The People, is basically gone.
     
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    But you aren't paying that to protect democracy you're paying that to line biden's pockets.
     
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    Government officials base their view of American mobility on city areas where families are all living in a compact area that is served by public transportation. Going on a routine 300mile round trip is as foreign to them as it is routine to us. The liberal game is square peg, round hole, bigger hammer.
     
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    False it's interference by the US government. The street increase coincided with January 2021.
     
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    None.

    Rising gas prices are mirrored around the world. Trump is irrelevant.
     
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    See post above.
     
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    Non interference.

    Democrats are trying to coerce people into buying electric cars. They really want to have that disaster.
     
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    That's not an argument it's an affirmation of Biden's interference.
     
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    It would be a small price, IF that was the reason for the price, and the result gained.
    We were energy independent, until Biden came along- and returned us to dependency, which put us in a position of having no choice.
    That had far more to do with appeasing political radicals than democracy.
    You can't stay on track to a chosen objective if you stick your finger up to test the political wind every time a decision is needed and change course to appease such people.
    Leadership is not deciding where to go- that is the choice of the people. Leadership is like navigation; guiding the ship of people safely to it's chosen destination, understanding the perils, making the right decisions, never forgetting what your objective is.

    Biden has no idea what that is; no idea where he's taking us, no idea what the consequences of that will be. That- is scary.
     
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    You can always depend on Democrats to tell half the story to make a false claim.
    When the rate of inflation is rising faster than wages, that isn't a strong economy.
    When millions who lost jobs quit looking for jobs, deciding not to count them as unemployed anymore so you can falsely claim we have a tiny unemployment is fake news
    Claiming high gas prices is defending democracy is the Democrats way of saying, we know Biden is weak but we would rather stick it to Americans if we can be in power

    Had Biden not sent his support messages to Putin, he wouldn't be invading Ukraine. Which is why he never tried it under Trump
    Trump sanctioned the NS2 Russian Pipeline to stop Russia from having a utility monopoly on all of the EU.
    Biden lifted those sanctions in May. What message did that send to Putin

    Biden stopped all lethal arms to Ukraine in June.
    What message did that send to Putin.

    We can't wait for midterms. Bidens dementia ridden policies are coming to an end.
     
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    I'm sure you would've been saying exactly that if gas prices had spiked while Trump was in office.
     
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    The costs of refining and processing crude oil did not increase just because the world supply was suddenly reduced???The salaries of rank and file oil company employees was not suddenly raised, but executives will probably get a big raise. People are profiteering off the current situation in the world as they always do at every opportunity.
     
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    It seems Biden's goal is to try and coerce American drivers to buy electric cars and this is an unmitigated disaster waiting to happen I don't think in Christ seeing the pies to $15 a gallon will make people get rid of their functionable usable cars to buy some substandard piece of garbage.

    They might buy some used piece of crap to tool around until the gas prices fall and then they'll just drive it to the dump and go back to the superior technology.

    Democrats hate energy producers because they fund Republicans the only reason they fund Republicans is because Republicans make policies that make it easier for them to do their job. Democrats want to make believe about these silly little green energy projects victim up and it's just not feasible. And the whole reason is to hurt real industry it's out of pettiness. I'm leaning toward the idea that the industry decided to self-govern and does a much better job than the government ever thought about doing and that pisses off Democrats because they want to be the answer to all problems.
     
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    Only economically illiterate people would believe something like this.

    In reality when you sell a lot more of your product at a lower cost used in to make more money because more people can afford it and they will buy more of it.

    What the problem is is depleted supply and the depleted supply is only depleted because of government interference. And this is perfectly okay with me it means people will go to the polls and vote against the policy that is ****ing them.
     
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    Bullsugar!
     
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