I did respond and you not reacting to my facts is you conceding to me. The police force is predominantly white because America is predominantly white. They are forced into conflict with African Americans because African Americans are violent out of all proportion to their percentage of the population. A fact that has been disproven time and again, the whole world knows it and you wishing it so doesn't change that .
I am also still waiting for you to explain why that cop deliberately put himself into danger by rolling around in the dirt with the suspect. A professional cop would leave a normal distance between him and the suspect and use a taser like that. But not this idiot. You are conceding to this. And I do not understand this "if" you speak off. The entire world saw massive amounts of white people attacking cops on jan the 6th. The bar when cops to start protecting themselves is totally different for black people. This goes unchallanged.
You are still not responding that professional cops would simply keep their distance to the suspect and use a taser. But not this amateur. So you are conceding. Statistically the most violent group are the cops themselves. The % of domestic violence is through the roof. While you are conceding by not responding that the bar when cops violently respond to white people is far higher. The entire world witnessed that on jan the 6th.
How could he have used the taser as he was attempting to flee? Officer acted entirely correctly and anyone would have done the same in his place. I accept your concession that you don't know what you're talking about and just have an anti-police hypocrisy. Police have a stressful job, partly due to people like you. Easy to forgive them. Not at all, police treat everyone the same, the media doesn't, had this been a white person it would never have made the news. The world has been watching BLM/Antifa loot and burn for years with the police standing by due to political correctness. On Jan 6th an unarmed woman who posed no threat whatsoever to anyone was shot dead by a police. Come on, you know what you're saying is rubbish, the officer acted correctly and Lyoya was one more idiot who got himself killed by his idiocy.
As shown. These cops behave in a professional manner and use the equipment provided to deal with a fleeing suspect in a safe manner, by applying what they have been trained to do. Their result is capturing a suspect successfully. This idiot almost threw his life away and his result is executing a black man, by pushing his face in the mud while blowing of the back of the guys head. This is absolutely not how a professional cop does it's work. It's utter nonsense that you think you can sell this. And it's obvious you've not changed a thing since you stuck to supporting Chauvin even when his superior called out that he acted against what he was trained to do and labelled what he did as murder. Your opinion doesn't count. And you say the police treats everybody the same. The entire world saw that the bar of using deadly force was dead low on jan the 6th against white people who were beating up cops one after the other in an orgy of violence. Facts, Rob, facts.
Yeah and these instances are completely different from this, the officer acted correctly, the world knows that, Lyoya has no one to blame but himself, give the officer a medal. The police on Jan 6th killed an unarmed woman who posed no threat whatsoever. Come on, give it up, the police are always the good guys and no matter what of the race of the person they kill that person is ALWAYS to blame for their own demise.
You will have read about it: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61452958 And the message is, that black lives do not matter in the USA. Which can also be seen in the case of the killing of Patrick Lyoya. Executed because of a number plate, and because he was black. One half of the USA seems to be ashamed of this case, and the other half finds this quite OK. Small wonder that it goes on and on and on ....
Yes and those brave police officers risked their lives to apprehend the suspect! Totally unrelated to Patrick Lyoya getting himself killed resisting arrest over an incredibly minor offence. It goes on and on because you make excuses for the Patrick Lyoyas of this world rather than confronting them and making them change their behaviour.
I'm not seeing any kind of argument why this is "completely" different. Chauvin's supervisor disagrees.
You had me until you claimed LEOs are exempt from human error. No human is perfect. Not one human in all of history has ever been perfect.
Because every situation is unique and unpredictable, hence why you shouldn't play back seat driver and second guess officers who have to make split second life and death decisions. Yeah, he threw him under a bus to save his own career. No ones perfect, they are HUMAN
You just contradicted yourself. Someone who never makes the wrong decision is, by definition, perfect.
So, by definition, your claim that every person killed by a LEO deserved it, is false. So, maybe stop saying that! Cheers.
You are focused on the wrong persons behavior. Why do blacks so violently resist arrest as opposed to whites requiring the higher force used by the police to take them into custody?
You are again not giving any kind of argument why this is "completely" different. And because of that, I can only judge this that you are conceding that they are similar. Because of that, I won the argument that the cop indeed put himself into danger by rolling around in the dirt, a danger he got himself out of him by executing a suspect (not somebody convicted of a crime) by pushing his face in the dirt and blowing the back of the head off. The cops is an absolute idiot, unlike other cops who just use a taser at a save distance. That idiot of a cop had a taser. You're just puking excuses. So you basically are claiming the supervisor of Chauvin is a dirty lying cop... telling lies under oath. Well well. Any prove of that? Of course not, right?
Are they? Cops and their henchmen claim that the victim of Chauvin was resisting arrest. And this was not the first time cops chocked their black suspects to death. Cops are simply more violent towards black people for being black. Cops in the US are on itself a very violent group. Their violence they unleash towards their own families is off the scale.
It was captured on video. He sort of did. He allowed them to put on the handcuffs, but when they brought him close to the car, he very much resisted getting in. Then once they finally managed to push him in, which was no easy task, he flopped right out after one of the inexperienced officers allowed an opening on the other side of the car. He was not willingly going to get back into the car, that much was very clear. You do realize there were multiple extraneous factors that made him more vulnerable to the neck restraint? Had those extraneous factors not been there, he would not have died. The question is only whether the neck restraint was appropriate given the situation, or if it was not appropriate, how inappropriate was it? (i.e. Was it almost justified by the circumstances but not quite?) You do have to recognize that "choking suspects to death" (as you put it) IS appropriate under some/many circumstances. There are not always easy ways to control the suspect that do not involve any risk of death whatsoever. Risking death might have been worth it, since if they didn't do that he might have run into traffic and killed himself, in his drug-induced state, given the situation. Could have endangered the officers lives too.
That's a blatant lie. Care to show some stats or are we doing this thing where you run away from your wild assertions?
I guess that’s why you linked up the evidence. I’ll wait, but not forever. Here let me help www.google.com
That's your opinion vs the expert opinion of Chauvin. And they told a different story. And the experts being Chauvin's superior and trainer. All you're doing is supporting the most rotten apples in the police force no matter what. Do note. They lynched him being handcuffed while smiling at the camera. How different did the cops react when white fascists were beating down cops all over the place to get access to the Capitol. It's typical for American cops to use no restraint at all against black people and use the most restrained possible against whites. The stats show this. Utter bs. The government has paid millions in damages each for being in the wrong. And that's millions in damages each case. The amount being paid reflects how utterly wrong the cops have been.
