Yup, another indictment.

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    You left something important out. The claim (yours as well) was that Trump was colluding with Putin to "influence the outcome of the election in Don's favor."

    Russia trying to influence American elections is a century's old tale. You literally dedicated your PF life to the proposition that Trump and Putin were colluding together for about 5 years. It's a bit too late to pretend that it never happened.
     
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    Just a quick question: was Donald unaware that Russians were meeting with Dumb,Jr. and the other members of his team of idiots in Trump Tower?
     
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    Bbbbbbbbut he’s not charged with inciting an insurrection!
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Because what he has is so novel new interpretation of the law and the charges for inciting the riot and declaring in an insurrection and sedition is what you guys have been betting the farm on for over two years. They would both be the HUGELY HIGHER CRIMES and of course the easiest to prove. He's had over two years to bring the charges, all the other prosecutions for the riot and effectively over. NO CHARGES concerning any of that and Trump these made up illegal acts.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    You mean a Russian private citizen who was told to take her allegations to the FBI they were not interested? That meeting? The Russian who reported to the guy running Fusin GPS which was trying to create some allegations against Trump?
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Yeah what happened to all the declarations he was going to jail for trying to violently overthrow the US government and that he is responsible for the riot at the Capitol?
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Trump WANTED it to be PEACEFUL. For his various scenarios to succeed it had to remain peaceful so the what he believed legal challenges could be entered and carried out and the decision sent back to the several state legislatures and then the vote taken. The riot that occurred was the LAST thing Trump need to happen.

    And AGAIN Trump is not charged with inciting any violence or rioting or insurrection or sedition. No conspiracy with any Oath Keepers or Proud Boys to overrun the Capitol and stop the proceedings. Nada, zip..............didn't happen as you guys have been asserting for years now.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    FRAUDUENT votes...................find FRAUDULENT votes.

    Which is the more accurate count, one with fraudulent votes included or one where they have been removed? Which did Trump want?

    Because the second one would be superfluous. The point Trump was making when he said that as were his advisers were that the were THREE TIMES that many but they didn't have to prove ALL OF THEM. Just to beat the margin. You know like Al Gore was looking for in FL 2000, just enough to get him the win.

    No it is not if fraud is proved to have occurred. Trump and his legal team, rightly or wrongly, believed there were LEGAL remedies. Elections DO get challenged.

    I would not be handing out legal advice were I you and your attempted analogy is specious at best.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    Yes you like others take the ENTIRE 90 minute phone call and cherry pick to that one sentence leaving out the ENTIRE context of the FRAUDULENT votes he wanted found and REMOVED. He didn't ask votes be created fraudulent and added into the count.

    Why is that?
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    I am quite sure a search of Google will turn up every attorney he has ever engaged why are you asking me? Certainly you are not asserting Trump has never engaged attorneys are you?
     
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    Try in the context of the discussion and what kind of votes and what done with them?

    As a matter of principle do you believe fraudulent votes should be included in vote counts? Is the more accurate count that which includes them or that which excludes them?
     
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    Nope I was responding to a post directed to me
     
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    Cite from the transcript where he asked for illegal votes to be created in his name. I get to hold my opinion of his guilt the same as you.
     
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    huh? Language precision please.

    Of course fraudulent votes should not be counted but we have never seen enough in any election to alter the outcome. That was also true of the 2020 presidential election.
     
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    LOL!


    Which is why he sat on his fat orange ass for over 3 hours doing nothing about it. Even though fellow scumbags begged him to get his morons to stop.
     
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    Again, no. I am not Jack Smith and you’re not the jury.

    Do you imagine that’s the only piece of evidence? You must, in that fever dream of yours.
     
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    Got a source that she is a normal Russian woman? Post it.
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    This is about GA and you won't because you can't because he does not.
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    You got a source she is an abnormal Russian woman? Post it.
     
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    I educated you on the why and I note you can't refute it and no he did not do nothing for over 3 hours although there was nothing for him to do other than tell people to be peaceful and obey the police and respect the orders of the police. They weren't "his people" rioting they were people acting on their own and why he has not been charged with anything to do with the riot.
     
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    Try QUOTING HIM in the context of the discussion and what explain kind of votes and what done with them?

    Then you agree with Trump and they should have been removed if they existed.


    What you have seen since matters not a twit, it is what Trump BELIEVED at the time had he agrees with you fraudulent votes should be excluded from the tabulation.
     
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    You’re trying your damnedest to make me stupider with your posts but I’m immune. That’s terrible reasoning, BTW. Your posts are inherently nonsensical and don’t need to be refuted.
     
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    You need no such help from me, lack of rebuttal noted again. What official action could Trump have taken once the riot began that he did not take?
     
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    I do. I’m waiting to see what your musings are based on. As if normal everyday Russians are flying to NYC and meeting with a campaign for president. LOL!
     
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    So much winning !
     

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