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  1. AFM

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    I am not wrong. Stats are from the CDC. Healthy people under the age of 65 have nothing to fear.
     
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    People in the US are more likely to have pre-conditions than Canada because the Canadian healthcare system looks after people in the middle and at the bottom. Preconditions, however, are not the only reason a higher percentage of Americans under 65 have died from covid.
    The evidence is Canadians live sn average four more years than Americans because everyday folks get better healthcare in Canada.
     
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    Preconditions are the main reason people under the age of 65 die from covid.
     
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    Okay. I tried communicating with you about masks and covid, provided evidence, and you come back with this BS.

    BTW, unhealthy people have rights, too, and not every unhealthy person has failed to take care of themselves.
     
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    You're excusing our incompetent response to covid, along with the crap promoted by your Orange Pal and his idiot supporters...

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    The respirator I showed is only incidentally blocking particles because it has a one-way exhaust valve.
     
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    If a person wants to protect themselves they should wear a P 100 mask.
     
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    Fauci and Birx set the federal response plan.

    95% deaths with covid had CDC preconditions. 90% deaths with covid over age 65. 40% deaths with covid were nursing home residents.

    The states responded individually.
     
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    I think he understands a P100 respirator, worn properly, provides excellent protection in congregate settings, especially for someone careful to social distance, too. Surgical masks cut transmission and with other measures might be able to get the R<1 and thus end an outbreak or pandemic.
    Especially if we can achieve R<1.

    If enough people voluntarily wear a respirator when have high transmission rates, we can prevent spikes that could overwhelm the healthcare system.
     
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    The pandemic is over. All we had to do is to protect the highly vulnerable. The vast majority of the population faced no more danger than influenza. The lockdowns did more harm than good and are still causing harm. Sweden got it right.

    There were no spikes to the healthcare system. That is a myth.
     
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    I wouldn't bet on you being right.
     
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    It’s all about preconditions. The US healthcare system is perfectly capable. The US government public health system is a joke. Their job is to provide the information required for people to determine their risk and accordingly how best to protect themselves. Fauci, Birx, et. al. did none of that.
     
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    We're talking in general terms about combatting a virus transmitted like covid.
    No, not nearly enough to protect the economy. Demand for restaurant meals dropped off everywhere, even in states like Texas with no restrictions. Travel dropped off. A more cooperative populace, less jackass I'll-show-you BS, more effort by older people to protect themselves and thereby not overtax the healthcare system, more people getting vaccinated, etc. and we might be able to beat the virus as they did in Canada.
    The lockdowns were undertaken in many communities when the local healthcare system was in danger of being overwhelmed with covid patients. You don't actually expect officials to let that happen, do you?
    When? In the end, they restricted large gatherings, banned visits to nursing homes, closed secondary schools... was that when they "got it right?"
    No "spikes" in what?
     
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    Some.
     
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    For those who pay enough.
    They're political.
     
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    Your stats are wrong.

    Trump set the federal plan.
     
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    Medicaid, Medicare, ObamaCare. Plus private insurance.
     
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    Fauci and Birx set the federal plan. Trump followed their direction.
     
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    A precondition is what perhaps of majority of 50-year-old Americans have. Your point is what?
     
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    The economy suffered due to the unnecessary lockdowns.

    In the beginning Sweden did all that. They got it right from day one until the politicians got involved later on.

    Read the book:

    Anderberg, Johan. The Herd: how Sweden chose its own path through the worst pandemic in 100 years (p. 338). Scribe Publications Pty Ltd. Kindle Edition.
     
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    My point is the list of CDC preconditions which result in a person being at very high risk to Covid which I again listed just upthread. That list was published in early 2020 but warning were not made by public health officials or politicians.
     
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    Millions have no insurance. The system sucks. 40% of Medicaid is for nursing care for indigents.
     
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    I'm not buying a book. Get real.
     
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    Huh? People with heart disease, for example, were told repeatedly they were at greater risk.
     
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    Everyone is eligible.
     

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