The Chinese agenda

China is a dictatorship. It could easily end the civil war with Taiwan by ceasing to be a dictatorship.

Me too or I would support a "one China" policy in which Taiwan would freely and voluntarily become part of China again without intimidation or coercion from mainland China, because mainland China allows free and fair elections and respects universally accepted human rights. This would also mean an effective end to the communist dictatorship in China, which of course, is unacceptable to the communist party which currently controls China.

Currently, China is a no friend of the US and is a threat to our interests and our allies, particularly in East Asia. They wage economic warfare against us while simultaneously building it's military to threaten their neighbors. I think we should seek to find some new allies in East Asia as well to encircle China and curb Chinese influence in the Middle East to choke their economy of the oil it needs to continue to run and function. Every Chinese attempt to find oil should be quickly met with a smart strategy to deny them those resources. In addition, levying tariffs against Chinese goods is necessary given that they are engaged in currency manipulation which in the very least is protectionism but perhaps more honestly, is economic warfare.

 

sound like you want WWIII. btw US is already encircle china. US has base in Skorea, japan, afghan, other asia countries.

what strategy you gonna use to deny oil to china other than a full out blackade? middle east and many other oil rich country does not work for US. even canada want to export their oil to china. the things you recommand doesn't benefit us one bit, but damage sino-us relationship.

 

I am not suggesting anything, but you have asked an easy question. Cause insurance rates on shipping to and from China to skyrocket. This could be done by withdrawing the US Navy's enforcement of freedom of navigation.

 

I don't believe that would only affect China, though. I can't imagine the South East Asians being too happy about that, especially India. It's not as if Delhi can construct a pipeline to Arabia through the middle of Pakistan...

 

First of all, only American happiness is of any importance to me.

The international status quo is ending. America will cease being a status quo power.

America's business is at home. However, if we were to remain involved in the eastern hemisphere it would make sense to play by Chinese rules.

 

How do you mean play by Chinese rules? As in tacitly side with Chinese interests?

As far as the isolationist approach... I think the US has the latent ability to be a great puppet master. Direct involvement I would shun; staying close to the sidelines and projecting soft power I wouldn't be necessarily opposed to.

 

Chinese rule are set out in The Art of War. There is a time for every tactic under heaven. Think of On War fused with The Prince.

Strategic withdrawal can be used to create vacuums in the eastern hemisphere which other powers will struggle to fill. Other powers can be set upon each other. Think of the role played by the US during the Iran/Iraq War in the 1980s.

China used this approach against America and India successfully. The same approach can be used against China.

 

Chinese don't survive on oil. My great Moon Zi, if you want to send the Chinese to hell, you and your US defence experts can try to create a great famine in China by denying them food sources instead. Close all your lucrative US fast-food outlets in China and stop feeding them with American chickens unless you want them to die of bird flu. Please refer to http://www.chinahearsay.com/u-s-china-cockfight-heads-to-wto/

Another crafty Sun Zi or Moon Zi way of defeating China without waging war is to bring about the formation of two or more political parties like those in the USA. They may be called the Chop Suey Party, Dim Sum Party or even the Tea Party. It won't take long for China to end up in a miserable way like the USA.

 

China had/has an addiction in encircling itself like a cocoon as seen in its building of the Great Wall in ancient times. If ancient China could afford it, it could have built the Greatest Wall of China to encircle the whole country.

My great Moon Zi, if your wealthiest nation in the world is willing to foot the bill for building such a wall to encircle the whole of China, China would certainly welcome the offer.

 

In the article headlined "Chomsky: US supports stable dictators" at http://www.presstv.ir/detail/166788.html

Chomsky further added that the Arab world considers the United States and Israel “a real threat” to world security.

"For the Arab public, the major threat by overwhelming majority is the US and Israel," he noted.

So my great Moon Zi, please advise your US regime and defence experts to make friends first before making one more enemy.

 

What are the Arabs to anyone besides oil pumpers? Once green energy has taken root, Arabia will be utterly neutered. As it stands, people have to tolerate OPEC because it has the fuel for the global economy. Once it looses that leveraging point it becomes irrelevant.

 

They have more solar radiation than most countries. That is why they should be investing in solar plants now, in order to become important sellers of hydrogen fuel, in the future. They will probably use electric energy to extract hydrogen from water, liquify that fuel, and transport it to industrial countries.
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Solar isn't the only form of renewable energy. And, regardless, both the US and China have sizable plots of desert within their borders.

 

Perhaps you should stop with your projections when you talk of this "great Moon Zi." Chomsky is not exactly a fair and accurate source to be quoting reedak. As far as "making one more enemy," lets not kid ourselves. Lets be honest and keep it real. China was already an enemy all along and the only thing that keeps China from using force against Taiwan right now is the possible threat of US military intervention. China has never been a friend of the US. China has always been a competitor and enemy of the US since the communists took over mainland China shortly after World War II.

 

Why is Chomsky alive? "Will no one rid me of this priest?"

Oh btw, this is the great Moon Zi:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XhmzDuHRtM"]Moon Zi ( going under) - YouTube[/ame]

 

I can't understand a word this woman is screaming through the microphone. Is this supposed to be music or art? Looks like she is Chinese. Maybe she is popular in China. Who knows?

 

This is another version of the same song:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdhqVtpR2ts&ob=av2e"]Evanescence - Going Under - YouTube[/ame]

 

So the Asian band is entitled Moon Zi? Or is Moon Zi the lead singer of the band who was singing "Going Under" in the first youtube video you posted?

 

Zi is the month of the rat in the Chinese lunar calendar. What Reedak was referring to was the lunar month of the rat. He was having fun with us. And I was having fun with him by showing what the Moon Zi had turned into in this era. The band is named Moon Zi.

 

I assume Reedak is Chinese, but I like I said, perhaps he should not project so much of himself. In some local Chinese restaurants I have eaten at, I remember seeing lunar months and the various different animals for each month and the description of each animal. Can't remember what was said about the rat.

 

Here is an article regarding efforts in Congress to pass a bill to punish China for currency manipulation:

Article on Congressional Efforts regarding Chinese Currency Manipulation

 

"Politics is an impermanent factor of life" -- James Thurber

The US is pretty self-centric and never regards other nations as true friends and allies. Its relations with other countries are dictated by temporal national interests.

In its history, the US has created various bogeymen: the British, Native Americans, Spanish, Mexicans, Germans, Japanese, Cubans, Russians, Vietnamese, Arabs, North Koreans, Talibans, Muslim extremists and now the Chinese.

Following is full text of the article headlined "The US recycles China as their latest bogeyman" at http://globalbalita.com/2010/the-us-recycles-china-as-their-latest-bogeyman/

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David W. Chen’s October 9 New York Times article discussed how China had become the scapegoat of both the Republicans and the Democrats in the US mid-term elections. Both camps were blaming each other for exporting US jobs to China.

This comes as no surprise. For sometime now, China has been recycled as the latest bogeyman of the US. “The bogeyman will get you” was once a favorite scare threat of parents for disciplining naughty kids. The bogeyman is a fictitious character — no different from Jason and Freddie of today’s horror movies. Nobody also ever defined what the bogeyman looked like and that made the bogeyman scarier as the wild imaginations of kids further added to its frightening dimensions.

In US history, the bogeyman has appeared under various identities in several chapters. During the War for Independence, the bogeyman was the oppressive Redcoat – the British soldier. During the period of westward expansion, the bogeyman was the savage – the Native American — who was merely fighting to preserve his race, land and heritage. The Conquistador policy was applied — brand the natives as savages and that sort of justifies their extermination.

If you’re not an idiot, a person who does not know the truth, you’d be very wary whenever the US attempts to project somebody or another country as the new bogeyman. That is because the Americans have the knack for creating bogeymen and then pirouetting in the next moment in order to start embracing them as their new allies. They did this with the Japanese, Chinese, Russians – called “The Evil Empire” during the Ronald Reagan years – and the Vietnamese.

China was once depicted by the US as the Yellow Peril. This was during the reign of Chairman Mao in China, following the US setback in the Korean War. China’s sudden entry in the Korean conflict to save their beleaguered North Korean Communist allies kicked the Yanks back to South Korea. The US eventually made an about face and embraced China as its biggest trading partner.

Now, the US is poised to pirouette again – for the umpteenth time – and is systematically reconfiguring China’s global image as the latest bogeyman. If you can shift your attention from the latest updates on Robin and Mariel, Willie Revillame and ABS-CBN, Mariel and Toni, Mariel and KC – then you’ll notice how the US has been establishing a predicate for its big agenda in the South China Sea.

The new “bogeymanization” of China – a Chair Wrecker original concoction – has several dimensions. There is the Chinese violation of human rights, the unfair trade practices, the alarming military buildup, the “bully-in-the-region” tag — all intended to make the US look like a swashbuckling hero of a Hollywood film who will protect the world from the iconic voracious Chinese Tiger. That propaganda icon was how the US depicted China during the Cold War.

It must be stated that China isn’t exactly guiltless in all these negative attributes that the US is intensely propagating. Indeed, human rights violations have significantly blemished the global image of China. Yes, China refuses to adjust their Yuan currency to a more realistic level in order to preserve their marketing edge. To a small fry like the Philippines with a claim to the oil in the Spratlys – China would surely appear as a big bully trying to corner all the black gold there.

Hidden in this “bully-in-the-region” US projection of China is the real US agenda of also wanting to corner the last suspected big oil reserve in the world. The US is cleverly establishing an entry point in the South China Sea oil equation by offering to “protect” the other claimants from the big neighborhood bully. Fearing the big neighbor – China – even Vietnam has opted to forget its 1960s and 1970s conflict with the US and now welcomes US intervention in the basically Asian dispute. Historically, we tend to fear more the big threat nearest us.

Most Filipinos are unaware of how these developments which could lead to a US and China conflict will severely affect us. Why do you think the US has such a great interest in sponsoring that failed MOA-BJE (Memorandum of Agreement-Bangsamoro Juridical Entity) which would have Balkanized Philippine national territory? That MOA-BJE has less to do with Mindanao peace but everything to do with providing the US with a military offensive capability versus China.

In this developing US-China conflict, the big challenge confronting the Filipino is how to avoid being dragged into the US-China conflict. Maintaining Philippine neutrality is easier said than done because a weak State like ours is always vulnerable to the machinations and pressures of powerful countries.

Both the US and China are capable of undermining a Philippine administration if that will serve their national interest. That may seem revolting to a Filipino but it is regarded as a patriotic act by an American or Chinese who is merely serving his country’s national interest.

Our problems are compounded by Filipino Quislings who are willing to work for the interests of another country despite its clear agenda to exploit Filipino inability to recognize a lover from a rapist, a hero from a heel, a savior from an oppressor. (End text)

My great Moon Zi, please refer to my posting in the thread http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...israel-still-exist-2048-a-21.html#post4530788

"As long as there are Americans...

... there will always be an imaginary Devil.

Just as with a psycho, the imaginary voice comes not from anywhere outside, but from within his own mind...

... the Devil is not found in others...

... but in America itself - the Great Satan."

 

Every one is afraid of bogeymen. Every one has a bogeyman under his bed. Even the Chinese.

 

After World War II, when the communists took over mainland China, then China became a Cold War enemy and continues to be an enemy and competitor of the US today (the US took advantage of the Sino-Soviet split during the Cold War under the Nixon Administration). Mao certainly was not friendly towards the West or capitalism. He was also very irrational. The current Communist Party in power in mainland China I would not characterize as friendly to US interests either. These are just facts that any reasonable person who has a realistic view of Sino-American relations understand.

Nations and/or governments, look out for their own (ie another word for self centric) interests and sometimes compete with each other when their interests clash. It's been that way between nations long before the US ever came into existence. It's not some kind of a unique American perspective of the world or behavior that is unique and exclusive only to the US, just the way it has always been between nations since the dawn of time objectively speaking. You don't seem to have a very pragmatic view Reedak.

 

China and America were once allies against the Soviet Union.