The Moral Clarity of Occupy Wall Street

Dear God, yet another one. You are either someone making a profit off of the destruction of your own nation, or someone who has watched both parties get us to where we are at, while thinking things will change the next time. If that is the definition of sane, I will be forever grateful the good Lord born me "crazy".

 

I feel the same way. Trying to make some of the closed minds on the right see sense is as frustrating as trying to make some on the left see how enonomiocally-unsustainable many programs they push are. The closed minds are holding on hard to their paradigm, which is a good one, but cannot ever be implemented if minds stayed closed and the infighting among those who want better for ourselves from our elected representatives fight one another instead of our common enemy which is an unaccountable government filled with thieves, who are siphoning our money to other thieves.

 

WTF are you talking?

 

Because the system that we have today is better for them than the laissez-faire.

A system that privatize profits socialize loses, is incredibly good for corporations. They are interested in maintain this system

Laissez-faire economy would cause some problems to corporations, in some points. Although they would have the power, can be more risky.

 

BINGO! We have a winner!

 

When you and the rest of the Flea Party actually protest the White House, the largest benefactor of the Wall Street money you can tout your high moral clarity and love of the common man.

Until then you are a far left socialist movement who want others to pay for you and your benefits while you denigrate the people who pay more taxes than 90% of the rest of the country.

But you don't which is why we can't take you seriously.

The communist and the Nazi party as well as Iran have endorsed the Flea Party movement. Do you ever stop to think why they are doing that Luna?

 

Spain is not America.

No one here cares what happened on 15 May over there.

American has a serious problem because a growing percentage of people are expecting a handout from the government.

So I do not dismiss the Wall St Neo-Coms as insignificant.

But with the Tea Party on the right calling for smaller government and the Neo-Coms on the left demanding a Soviet Socialist Republic of Amerika there is a showdown coming.

No question about that.

 

LOL. All you have is Ad Hominem. LL is not a member of the "flea party", and neither am I. We both support the Tea Party as much as OWS. We are the future. You my friend, are the past.

 

Free trade is the product of liberty not traitors.

 

LOL. Mac-7, you crack me up. I can't wait to see 2 guys, both holding a "down with the FED" sign, beating each other up over who drew theirs better.

 

LOL You represent socialism and isolationism. Only a fool would attack the US for thinking globally.

You endorse the socialist movement of the Flea Party because you don't believe in personal responsibility.

Where are your attacks on the White House? You claim to be such a neutal figure show us all your posts where you go after Obama for receiving more money from the banking industry and his failed economic record?

Show us Drop.

 

Free trade works with countries that are comparable to the US.

That means the Euro's , Japan, South Korea, Australia and others with income about the same as ours.

But free trade with essentially poor, low wage countries like China, India, Vietnam and others is not a good idea for Americans.

With the poor countries we need managed and balanced trade that protects US jobs.

 

No disagreement here. America also has a serious problem of the taxpayers being coerced to pay for corporate losses while corporations keep all the profits. Our economic system is rigged in favor of large corporations while offering zero benefit to the American taxpayer. This is corrupt. There are many people in the OWS who are not leftist. Every group can see that this is wrong, and this is something we can all fight together, but the propaganda machine is too entrenched and some too blind for that to ever happen unless people wake up and work together.

 

Yeah, that is why the international left is as for it as corporations. It's called market socialism. The elite of the right make huge profits, while wealth is being taken from America to build China. Market forces dictating redistribution.

Let me repeat, while wealth is being taken from America and given to China. I would rather we sold a foreign nation tanks than give it the economic means to surpass us one day. You and I have very different definitions of treason.

 

Closing the Fed may be the only issue that the Tea Party and the Neo-Coms agree on.

 

I am a nationalist capitalist. I assure you, I would send you a Polaroid of Bush next to Obama in a hole on the White House lawn if I could.

 

LOL No Capitalist would support a movement whose goal is to bring down Capitalism.


So you can't show us those posts that prove your claims.

What a shocker.

Thanks for staying painfully predictable Drop.

 

You are without a doubt, lost on the fringe. For all of you anti-capitalists, the fact that big business and all the billions they take in, need us little people to run it and make it happen. Could you imagine consumers not buying any products? Why would businesses want to make that happen? Their oxygen is generating money, and without products or services, they die, and that is the benefit of capitalism.

With a dictator murdering it's citizenry to walk to their beat, which is what would happen if you replace capitalism. Your choice, but I can see your conspiratorial mind is already made up.

 

I think the big difference between the Tea Party and the Neo-Coms is that the Tea Party wants smaller government with a simple tax code while the Neo-Coms still believe in the ability of government to do good.

The Wall St protestors believe that the corporations can somehow be purged from Washington and replaced by populists.

So the Neo-Coms want big government but with more control over it than they have now.

 

There can't be moral clarity as long as there is no clarity in purpose. I fully support the right of peaceful protest and I understand the call for reforms. I think any citizen of a country that allows such protests to take place should be proud of his country.
But unfortunately, I've been following those protests since they started and I have seen very few coherent criticisms, suggestions or complaints. But I have seen plenty of empty, hateful, deluded rhetoric such as 'billionaires - your time is up" (accompanied by a rather graphic illustration of a banker being pulled by his neck with a rope), jew hatred, outdated socialist slogans about 'greed' etc. I hate saying this, but any protest that is dominated not by a call for reform but by the call "i want" is a potential path to radicalism and fascism to take over.
Being successful is not a sin. Having money is not a sin. 'Greed' is the moving force of economy and of human race as a whole. Of course measures must be taken in order to ensure legal rights and prevent those with financial power from violating the rights and interests of those who don't have such power. But when you target 'the rich' for the mere fact that they have more than you, you are just demonizing a large sector of population... and not because you think what they do is wrong, but because you'd like to do the same but can't.

 

Click on my statistics and search for them yourself. I thought OWS were the lazy ones? I talk about ALL GLOBALIST, ALL THE TIME. You think you are clever, but it's just because we have never crossed paths before. To those who are use to my rhetoric, you are making yourself look like a fool by dodging subject matter and flame baiting.

 

Wow, that was good Tex. A perfect response.

 

/End Thread

 

The only person dodging is you.

Its not my job to do your work for you.

You made the claims. Man up and post your quotes that support your claims.

 

Oh please stop it, you are making way too much sense. Good post