Remember When Obama Promised to 'Eliminate North Korea's Nuclear Weapons Programs'?

Yes, on the way to the golf course.

 

No. Is that how you "remember" things? Odd.

Another example of disingenuously
ignoring Obama's pledge.

 

I see you have selective amnesia again.

North Korea was one of the three countries listed as part of the axis of evil, and yet President Bush Jr let Norith Korea have nuclear weapons. IT was one of his biggest blunders in his administration.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0405.kaplan.html

 

Please list in detail how Bush "let" N Korea develop nukes. I promise not to laugh too hard but your ignorance of the issue will make it hard to contain myself.

Since 1956 N. Korea, with the help of China and the Soviet Union, has been building it's nuclear capabilities. Don't forget that it was in the nineties (Bill Clinton was in office) when N. Korea developed long range missiles capable of delivering a nuclear pay load so you might as well ignorantly claim that it was old Slick Willie who LET N. Korea menace it's neighbors with threats of nuclear attack.

Since the Clinton administration, in 1994, agreed to replace aging domestically built N Korean nuclear reactors with new modern light water nuclear
reactors it would be much more accurate to state that it was the Clinton White House that gave N Korea it's modern nukes but I really don't see you blaming Bill Clinton, for some odd reason, in favor of reflexively slamming George Bush. How typically uninformed.

 

Time to destroy Lil Kim's nukes before he has a chance to use them. Then, it will be up to China to make red lines, hoot, leap, and make threats.

 

The core to the issue was George W refused to continue a program started during Clinton where North Korea was paid not to produce bomb material. The other complaint was George W rejecting the "Sunshine" agreement in early 2002

 

Amazing!

Absolutely amazing!


I used to come to PF to find the lamest arguments supporting Obama...."I's Bush's fault" on steroids. There was nothing, nor ONE thing that Obama could do that was anything but perfect, and those who thought maybe, somehow, "the one" might have not been 100% accurate, like "57 or 58 states", were "racists", "**********s" [A gay homosexual term if you must know] or worse.

Now, six years later where he is exposed as having promised everything from universal health care to receding ocean levels - talk about "Idi, vidi, vinci!", no defence, no comment, and the first post that isn't in agreement asks what SHOULD be done?

I guess asking that of Obama at the time wasn't convenient. It sure did get a lot of flack if one posted that question then, like "how will people NOT lose their plans?" or, the one that touched off a lot of mod edits at the time: "how will he make his the most open and accountable administration in history?"

So now, rather than even suggesting that maybe, "the mouth" be asked just how he thought he might do that is out, but asking his detractors for their solutions IS.

Now, no one in here made the boast, so why ask? Two, Obama did, why not ask him, demand it of a democratic leader and hold him accountable?

If the people in here had answers we would never have needed this rock-star dolt in the first place.

 

Serious answer?

Because Obama and the CIA THINK they know what's going on in Syria and have a dog in the hunt, rebels they can arm and throw money at.

They don't even have any allies inside of Korea that they will listen to, let alone boots in there. And, frankly, the more I see of the US foreign policy in Asia, the more I am sure they are blind deaf mutes blundering around in a round room looking for the corner. Obama may not have even know where North Korea is when he said that, he still doesn't know what's going on

 

Developing long range missles is not the same as developing nuclear weapons. And the article I cited was proof.

It was in 2002 that North Korea stated to the world of its nuclear weapons program and it was during the Bush watch that led North Korea to test its first nuclear device. But the interest for nuclear technology came as early as 1956, Eisenhower Admin that started the research.

Again, you cannot pub blame on simply the Democrats here. No matter who was president, NK hot what it wanted, whether you like it or not.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0405.kaplan.html

 

With good reason as even George Bush did something right once in awhile.
N. Korea has been developing nuclear weapons capabilities since 1956 and just like Iran, that continues to develop their program regardless of promises to the contrary and the lifting of some sanctions to encourage them to stop, N Korea will do what it wants regardless of what we do diplomatically.

And this did what, exactly?

 

Dude! If we're going to make a comprehensive list of all the broken promises, groundless blather, and outright, bald-faced LIES that can be laid directly at President Magnificent's feet, we'll need to have the Forum add a storage-attached network with at least six hard drives in order to do the effort any justice.

To put it mildly, Barack Jive-Ass Obama is the most deceitful, shallow, short-sighted, and careless president we've had since at least Lyndon Johnson in the early 1960's. By the time Johnson was finally hounded out of politics, he'd gotten 60,000 American military personnel killed in Vietnam, and built on FDR's foundation to set up the biggest expansion of the Welfare State since the 1930's. These socialist bastards are doubly dangerous because not only do they completely misunderstand how to conduct foreign policy (as Obama does vis-a-vis North Korea), they infect our country domestically, injecting decay, rot, and worthlessness with every wretched idea that pops into their minds. And "truthfulness"...?! Ladies and gentlemen, need you have more than the "Affordable Care Act" to demonstrate Obama's preference for lying through his teeth?!

 

it's not you obviously.

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What good reason? It was those decisions that led North Korea to develop nuclear weapons in the first place.

 

Precisely my point and pointing the finger at Bush, to exculpate Obama in his spectacular failure to stop N Korea from developing it's nuclear weapons program (as he pledged) is childishly absurd.
As you admit N Korea has been working for nukes and a delivery system since 1956 throughout democratic administrations and republican alike.

I bring up Clinton only to balance the scales when you try and make Bush the scapegoat for N Korea.

 

Who were the fools who believed he was lying?

 

Another nice non-partisan article from breitbart.com. I think what the administration has done is to try to keep another war from occurring,which of course would put potentially millions of lives at risk. But of course breitbart.com twisted it to fit their conservative agenda.

 

Yes. I obviously cannot protect America from Obama, though I really wish I could, and it has not been for lack of trying that I can't. I think you were trying to make some snarky point but it really fell down in a heap of fail.

What are "those decisions"? And who made them? N. Korea has been the evil little stepchild of China and the Soviet Union for decades and I'm not aware of any American president who has consciously aided their aim to arm themselves with nukes.

 

Obama was fully aware of the history when he made his uneqivical vow was he not? Or are you admitting he was not only unqualified but uninformed?

 

Are you actually asserting they are developing long range ICBM's in order to deliver conventional explosives?

 

So your point is moving the goal posts for pure political reasons? That makes you look more foolish than your post really shows. Congrats.

 

I am not arguing the criticism was valid, just that it existed. Same as the criticism of Obama

South Korea thought they were getting somewhere, and had been very positive about progress. I would have liked GWB to have given it another year or two to see what might happened

 

Give references to your contentions of candidate Sen. Obama having said & in your words not mine:

"In 2008, then-candidate Barack Obama promised that he would “eliminate North Korea’s nuclear weapons program.”

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Best Regards
Lobato1

 

Apparently not only is Obama free to make absolutely any outrageous claim he wants (like "today is the day the earth begins to heal itself"....it's impossible to be more pompously self important than that) but some unrepentant hard core believers still
try to defend absolutely anything that escapes through Barry Obama's oily lips!

I'm sure that Barry actually believes the hype that surrounds him and it doesn't help that his enablers reinforce the fantasy world he lives in.

 

Except that the criticism of Obama exists purely because of Obama's own overwhelming hubris, which he invites by making some extravagantly absurd claims (like disarming N Korea's nuclear capabilities once he assumes office).
That's a distinction you fail to take into account.

Without any supporting links by you I'm unable to speak authoritatively on this but
just the fact that N. Korea had been obsessively building their nuclear program since the mid fifties makes me thing that S. Korea, like the people that think they can persuade Iran to simply give up their desire for nukes, is living in a dream world and they are being much more hopeful than realistic.

 

Moving what goal posts for what purpose? Don't let your desire to get even cause you to make absurd
posts.

 

Here is an overview of the policy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Policy