Obamacare cost to be 20% less than forecast, budget office says

Obama in 2008 didn't campaign on the public option. he campaigned on universal healthcare. And that was the first thing he attempted to pass on healthcare reform. It didn't get past conservative democrats. So he tried the public option. That didn't do it either.

Obamacare is the result of conservative compromise. We could all have clean and simple universal coverage if we had more liberal representatives. And you simply cannot have a system that's purely free market and expect people with preexisting conditions to survive it. Insurance companies are not going to cover high risk people without being forced to. And if you're going to force them to then you need to force low-risk customers to purchase. It's only fair.

I'd rather not force anyone to do anything and just cover it. All of it. For everyone. And have it come out of taxes. Easy peasy.

 

L.A.Times ... eh.About THE most shill-driven bunch of lackeys in the Press.

 

Complete Bull (*)(*)(*)(*)!

FYI "uninsured" does NOT mean can't get health care. The HRSA on-line finder has a low cost/no cost Federally funded Health clinics.

Sorry Bill there were plenty of federally, state and county jointly funded clinics and hospitals......YES even in rural areas.

 

Then what is this talking about?
"Many Democratic politicians were publicly in favor of the public option for a variety of reasons. President Obama continued campaigning for the public option during the debate. In a public rally in Cincinnati on September 7, 2009, President Obama said: "I continue to believe that a public option within the basket of insurance choices would help improve quality and bring down costs."
The President also addressed a Joint Session of Congress on September 9, 2009, reiterating his call for a public insurance option, saying that he had "no interest in putting insurance companies out of business" while asserting that the public option would "have to be self-sufficient" and succeed by reducing overhead costs and profit motives."

Sure it is.

 

They clearly weren't effective enough considering lack of insurance killed 45,000 a year
http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes....-of-insurance-to-45000-us-deaths-a-year/?_r=0

Obamacare increased their funding and also reduced the amount of uninsured.

 

Hey........I'm not the one claiming people died from lack of insurance......

People with insurance die everyday..........

 

Obamacare is medicade/care.

It's worse than that - it's an excessive tax wrapped in a riddle now.

We haven't even seen the best of it yet - when the masses have most of their income tax returns confiscated....

NO ONE under the age of 65 is any better off now than they were with the previously - the majority are WORSE off.

Obamacare was nothing more than massive social regulations and a con job of forcing the young to pay for the old.

 

If you like your forecast, you can keep your forecast.

Only a fool would believe ANYTHING from this lying POS administration.

 

That's a quote from nearly a year after his 2008 campaign.

Here he is calling for universal heatlhcare at the start of his campaign in 2007.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-01-25-obama-health_x.htm

Here he is debating Hillary Clinton on heatlhcare. Hillary Clinton believed there should be an individual mandate.
Obama thought we just needed universal healthcare not a mandate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhYQ-GQyEB0

He was always against a mandate. But conservatives left him little choice. It was a problem that needed to be solved.

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Yeah. They die when treatment doesn't work or there is no treatment. They don't die because they couldn't afford treatment.

 

The government does not owe you life at any cost.........to believe so is quite frankly, ignorance on an epic level...........

 

It's well known and understood that Obama and friends would love to have a European style
single payer health plan (even though it's consistently denied). So that's not really the point.

The point is why Obama Care, which pulls everyone into a centralized government mandated and managed health plan like the black hole of health plans (happy or not with your previous health care)? Why not a plan especially created for those who are uninsured and difficult to insure which leaves everyone else alone?

You claim conservatives made Obama do it. That's horse crap and impossible to substantiate!

 

I'm not arguing for this because I benefit from it. I'm a healthy man with no real medical issues. I'm doing this because I believe it is the government's responsibility to protect its citizens from death of all varieties. That's why I support police. That's why I support firemen. That's why I'd support publicly funded doctors and medical staff and healthcare.

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My point is if we can't have single payer then this is the only option to get people with preexisting conditions covered. You can't force insurance companies to cover high risk customers without forcing low-risk customers to pay up. So yes. Obamacare is the result of conservatives not getting on board with singlepayer.

 

But it's simply not true that the only two options are single payer or Obama Care. You can repeat the mistaken notion over and over again but that doesn't make it so.

 

And yet no other suggestions are being put on the table.

 

As usual, the left deals in memes, vs reality

 

again not the truth......

not going to do the research for you

 

What was the republican plan for covering people with preexisting conditions?

 

you want reality ?



Obamacare was the main issue in 2012 and the nation re-elected Obama for it.

 

Yet suggestions were out on the table before Obama got into office and he himself made those suggestions
and then he himself abruptly removed them in favor of the health care black hole ironically known as the Affordable Care Act. That's been sort of the whole point all along.

 

not going to do the research for you

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Obamacare was never scheduled for implementation till after the 2012 elections...............

by design

To deny this fast is again ignorance.......

 

Because there is no research to do. There never was a GOP plan for that. Oh wait, yes there was- it was called "Go Die".

 

I already know the answer. There wasn't one. They offered tort reform. Which has a minimal effect on premiums but does nothing to help insure more preexisting conditions. The individual mandate was the republican solution for this problem back in the 90s and again under Romney in MA.

Did I miss a solution to the preexisting condition problem? If so feel free to defend your position. Or keep pretending that I'm the one who doesn't understand the issue. Your choice.

 

I don't like Obama care and would like to see it changed. But we do need to take care of those who have pre existing conditions.