What's happening to Conservatism?

Before 1960.

 

Yes, the White families also have the same problems, but not as much crime, though.
And school is somewhat better, because the Welfare White people do not always live together, as the Black families do,in the cities, in particular.
What happens is that everyone on a school, for instance, is a Welfare kids and the friends and enemies are all packed together, thinking the same tings as one another.
There are few working fathers living in the community, so these kids see only mothers and her kids.
They tend to make the mentality similar.
But White bastards kill as many people as do the Black bastards.

Where did you get your facts on the families?

 

Nevertheless, though, 2014 saw as many illegitimate babies born as legitimate babies.
So we can expect that Welfare will be 50% shortly, as the numbers are increasing.

 

I provided the link he got his data from. But....he conveniently only posted the gross numbers and not the lopsided percentages, which show 67% of black children from single parent homes and only 25% of white children from single parent homes. Here it is again.

http://datacenter.kidscount.org/dat...6,868,867,133,38/10,168,9,12,1,13,185/432,431

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At least it's a good news. I hope the conservative will be putch here in Canada too. To keep the bad natality rate, to keep our future destruction.

 

Yes,these are generations of people after Welfare started which followed what their mothers had done.
They failed school, usually did not even attent=d regularly.'They had no skills and could not read or count.

What needs be done is that we take care of Welfare for them, but make sure their daughters are not eligible, so they must not be sexually active since no money will come to them.

Then we MUST raise the min wage so the boys get a job which can support a family, and do not go to jail instead.
These must be programs which will save the black community, not keep them in the present prison.

 

You are conflating being Republican with Conservative.
Sean Hannity no longer calls himself a Republican.
The GOP is no longer what it was during Ronald Reagan.
They are now full of RINO and closet neocons.Or shell Republicans
like John Boehner who sold out long ago.For whatever reason.
Probably due to peer pressure.They can longer fight the good Reagan Fight.
There are too many obstacles.The biggest being the MSM which is thoroughly
leftist.Hollywood and the Culture are being weaned to Hate Conservatives.
Liberals have won.They have brainwashed Urban big city's and many college
youth.

 

You were doing fine till the last couple of sentences....

Liberals haven't won, not by a long shot. Here's what's happened: it happened to the partisans on the right first, because we happened to elect an idiot first, but now it's happening to the partisans on the left too ('cause they followed our idiot with an even bigger idiot) - the partisans (and now I'm talking about the die-hard Republicans) got snookered and they didn't know what to make of it - and they ended up with a deer-in-the-headlights moment from which they've yet to fully emerge. The ideologues, whom you've mentioned, got taken completely by surprise, it was as if their ideological village was suddenly overrun by ISIS or something, they didn't have the weaponry with which to fight back 'cause they weren't expecting any such thing.

But that doesn't mean they've gone away - we're still living quietly in the village, in spite of the 24/7 oppressors everywhere, and when the moment is right, we'll take the opportunity and regain control of our village. There are multiple types of rats in our nest right now, we have ideological rats who come mainly from the left, as you say, but there are also self-interested rats who masquerade as patriots and say one thing while they're doing entirely another, and there are corporate rats, and all kinds of rats. Weasels, and rats. It's a problem, and most of the political exterminators in town aren't up to the task (certainly the liberals tried and failed)....

What'll happen is the right will rediscover and reinstitutionalize its ideological compass. It's happening even as we speak. The mere fact that we're having this discussion is proof enough.

 

Just read the bible. Nothing is happening to conservatism (i.e. goodness and righteousness) that christians havent known about for thousands of years.

 

You made a very specific claim: "And guess what? The majority of fatherless homes are black."

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So let's take a look at America pre 1960, segregation, internment of Japanses Americans, women not allowed to vote until woman's sufferage, slavery, mistreatment of Native Americans, a time where a woman's place was right where a man told them it was... yea, the good ole days... /facepalm...

As for the American family pre 1960 we as a society just better hid our vices whereas today we are more open and honest about our vices. Make no mistake about it, pick any decade and take an objective look at it and you will find vice hidden by the thin veil of a facade.

I prefer honest imperfection rather than hypocrisy hidden behind a facade of perfection.

 

And it has to happen. How else can prophecy be fulfilled?

 

Let's have a look at what liberalism really entails. Students go to school and tell their teachers what to do. Children tell their parents what to do. Employees tell their employers what to do. Soldiers tell their officers what to do. Criminals tell the police what to do.

Take everything that makes sense to pragmatists; reverse it, and there you have your modern liberal society.

Yours is a country where whole cities can go on standstill because one minority thug gets shot by the police.

As America stoops further into liberal madness, record numbers of Americans are giving up their citizenship.
And the answer that Americans come up with to "solve" their problems- more liberalism...

 

Eventually, yes. But christians are instructed to resist it with all their might.

 

We're more segregated and divided today than we were pre-1960! And we're that way, because the forced integration naturally forced a compelling repelling factor. Those with the wealth to maintain segregation, did. While the forced integration communities did not view themselves together, but as two separate communities "tolerating" each other.

That word, "tolerance" has done more to divide us than any word. That word tells us to ignore grievances, it tells us to enable criminal behavior where its witnessed, because "they don't know any better.". It's not that we're seeing "honest imperfections", new vices have been created in the name of eliminating old ones.(And the old ones haven't even been eliminated)

We've become a worse country, in every meaningful way. In terms of relations, in terms of economics, in terms of education. In terms of income, etc.
What we're wish-washing is not the old era, but the results of the 1965 New Left Revolution. In heralding our weak, broken pathetic State of today, many Americans are wish-washing our miserable failure.

The woman might as well still be a slave, only now she's a slave to corporations. Not that she was viewed a slave in the household, but as a very valued and esteemed member of the family. I wonder how she feels, being looked at as a sexist dollar sign? Surely, it's a step up!(Sarcasm). Liberalism has sought to turn minorities into a victim class, and in so doing minorities have damaged themselves and their relations to Americans.

A minority-majority society will break down instantly in a power-class struggle and when that happens the 'American Experiment' will end. In another 15 years or so(By 2030, we should be fractured enough and government weak enough.) You'll have the same revolution that brought Napoleon Bontaparte into power in France.(The French peasants were undervalued by the oligarchic class in France. Sound familar?)

As bad as I feel about internment, it was a time of war. I'd rather do too much(interment) than too little(9/11). We won the war, and paid reparations for our crimes. A perfect balance IMO.

PS. Slavery ended shortly after the Civil War. 1865 to be precise. 1960's America was almost 100 years to the end of slavery.

In the late-1900's, before Liberals and Conservatives betrayed America, you had a strong middle class, growing infrastructure and US jobs. The philosophies of the two great liars, are lies. And they're lies no matter who spews them. Ideology is worthless on a piece of paper, its reality that is the harsh judge.

 

Hm. I was thinking more like 1949 China... but yeah...

 

Philosophically speaking its extraordinarily difficult to accurately define everyone as a conservative, moderate or liberal etc. Not only do such definitions require subjective assessments, the entire system belongs in the past. For example I may hold opinions that are clearly conservative such as my ideas about restricting abortion. However, I am also rabidly liberal on others (example I totally detest any type of artistic censorship!).Maybe, hopefully one day those labels and the system that creates them will go the way of T-Rex. I am not concerned with the poll and would urge more activism to rid or highly modify the current system with something better.

reva

 

<Flame-baiting/Insults/Replies> I initially responded to Cupid David's post about fatherless homes being at the root of many problems.

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Dude I use the term leftist so as to avoid confusing foreigners. The current Democratic party is statist left. It favors an ever more authoritarian government that controls an ever larger portion of everyone's life. Calling Republicans who want you to quit stealing other people's stuff and to quit selling poison to their kids authoritarian while simultaneously empowering a Democratic machine that's hemming you in with stone walls at every turn and making it harder and harder for anyone to succeed as it adds several thousand new rules and regulations every year, is not seeking after freedom.

 

You are blaming the wrong people. What's destroying the Middle class who mainly work for others or run small businesses is government rules and regulations driven by an over powered largely unaccountable bureaucracy.

 

The same things that people like Barry Goldwater strongly admonished against, DID happen and are STILL happening to Conservatism:

That's not the ONLY problem with today's 'Conservatism' (Republicans)... but it is a massive one.

Money... that is a gigantic problem also.

 

So you think people of faith should never hold public office? Let me tell you, the 1st amendment was meant to keep government out of the church, not the other way around.

 

Culturally, things change with time and generations. Just like the 2nd Law in the OT (Deut) doesnt sound too much different than today's Islamic Sharia Law (stoning's, etc.).

'Modifications' to traditional systems shud improve those systems; however, today many changes are fracturing traditions that have been standards for a healthy culture and promote the culture as in a melting pot and not divide it as today following 6 1/2 yrs of Obama's America has.

Freedoms are good and healthy if they dont offend others nor 'take down a culture.' Just as the sexual drive for the promotion of a species is good; whereas, perversion of such into 'lust' is not and is being seen these days by wide scale porn aiding in the growth of child porn, as lust is never fulfilled. Perversion of freedom, as in taking to the 'nth degree' is never good for any culture in the long run.......and modern liberalism is taking this country THERE!

 

It was highjacked by Dixiecrat racists when Nixon and Reagan pandered to them in the aftermath of civil rights and then the lunatic fringe right, usually restricted to places like the John Birch society or religious fundamentalist gatherings, also slipped into the con tent and they have been going downhill ever since.
Today, we got the kids of the Birch society founder running around buying elections for far right extremists, and rational cons have to dance to the spastic beat of the reactionaries and fanatics. It's a sad state of affairs.

 

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I could list countless articles published on this. Here's but one. This problem (fatherless children) is an "extremely acute problem amongst blacks". The black dudes boink their women to get their jollies and then show no responsibility for their actions. They father the children but don't stand up to their responsibility as real fathers. The 67% Brian quoted in his article might actually be low. This and other articles say the black fatherless rate is as much as 75%. And.....it's a way for the single black moms to stay on the government dole.

http://www.decodedscience.com/crime-the-black-community-and-sean-bergin/48081

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